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[PROPOSAL] Support Tug-class Vessel

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#161 - 2012-05-11 16:27:45 UTC
free bump for a good idea

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you're welcome

Alnaria Fizolna
Eloria Corporation
#162 - 2012-05-12 14:50:31 UTC
Great ideas here =)
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#163 - 2012-05-12 18:08:53 UTC
Why thank you.

It's refreshing to see more than the mindless sheep who continually spout off:

"It's called a carrier hurdur.."

"Get an Orca"

Considering both of those ships specialize for one thing or another, when this vessel in and of itself would be highly specialized for the job that it does.

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#164 - 2012-05-12 22:12:20 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Why thank you.

It's refreshing to see more than the mindless sheep who continually spout off:

"It's called a carrier hurdur.."

"Get an Orca"

Considering both of those ships specialize for one thing or another, when this vessel in and of itself would be highly specialized for the job that it does.



exactly!

the orca was designed as an INDUSTRIAL COMMAND SHIP not a hauler. the ship bay is meant for indy ships and mining barges. sick of ppl saying just use it. also as we all know, carriers are low/null sec only.

we really do need a dedicated ship hauler.

it would bring in something new that required mins (allways good) and something new to gank.

NUFF SAID!!!
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#165 - 2012-05-13 02:21:11 UTC
And just think of the ISK sink and market warfare.

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#166 - 2012-05-14 02:35:32 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
And just think of the ISK sink and market warfare.




Imagine indeed Twisted
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#167 - 2012-05-17 17:03:49 UTC
Also, imagine the tears if it got ganked and a large majority of the ships dropped.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#168 - 2012-05-18 18:43:33 UTC
Anyone else have any suggestions?

Let's keep this thing going.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#169 - 2012-05-19 17:52:43 UTC
Need more support for this venture.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#170 - 2012-05-21 18:06:17 UTC
There are a plethora of reasons this should be implemented. So with that, let's get some more support and exposure to CSM/Devs.

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Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#171 - 2012-05-22 01:11:23 UTC
Bump cause I remember this taking off..... how long ago? lol hopefully CCP sees that is refusing to go down

S H I T P O S T I N G

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#172 - 2012-05-22 01:35:07 UTC
This idea was spawned in November of last year, and was posted in Features and Ideas first, and after the overwhelming feedback and support it received there, I brought it to Assembly Hall in January of this year. Once again, it was met with overwhelming support and feedback. This idea came to me as an idea of something that would prove to be extremely useful to just about anyone on all fronts for actual logistical applications. It would revolutionize the transport of warships across space (high/low/null) and would create a new sub-career path for those interested in mass transit.

As a result of the massive response I have gotten to this idea, I was given the suggestion of forwarding this to the CSM.

I was met with a less than promising response at first, however, the member of the CSM who I spoke with then said that they would look it over, and upon looking it over said that this was indeed an interesting idea and that they would keep it handy.

I still haven't gotten a chance to sketch what my vision of how the Envoy-class Vessels would look, but that's due to real life constraints. But, given the chance, I'll get them done eventually, and will post links to where the pictures are hosted as soon as I get them done.

So thank you all for your support, and no, I am not giving up, and not letting this idea go quietly into the night. Keep the posts coming, and let's turn this thing into a threadnaught of epic proportions.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#173 - 2012-05-23 18:10:41 UTC
Let's keep this idea fresh in the eyes of the masses. Everyone needs simplified logistical assets.

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Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#174 - 2012-05-23 19:56:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Valerie Tessel
+1 I remember reading up on a freighter and seeing that no, you can't lug around fitted ships which is ridiculous.

Forgive me if it's already been suggested, but an alternative implementation could be to add low slots to freighters. Pilots would then have a choice to fit Freighter-class cargo holds or ship hangars (or a mix). Power grid limits could make these slots useless for tanking (if that's a concern). Maybe we could call them TARP-class vessels.

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#175 - 2012-05-23 22:43:06 UTC
The initial sketch of the Bedouin-class is complete. Will post a link once I add more shading and get it scanned.

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Zanban
Lava Shark Productions
#176 - 2012-05-24 03:43:16 UTC
Still a bad ass idea and I support it 100%
Serina Tsukaya
Dropbears Anonymous
Brave Collective
#177 - 2012-05-24 09:45:55 UTC
A ship specially designed for this role isn't the worst idea in the world, but at the same time, there are two ships that cover some of the bases.

Supercarriers (aka Motherships)
Titans.

Titan bridges can be used for quick redeployment and even be set up as a ferry system that people can use to move ships very quickly.

The titan has a 5 Million M3 Ship maintenance array.

Super carrier has a 2,5 Million m3 Ship maintenance array.


At the same time, there is a need for something that doesn't require that much resources for such logistics. Then again, how tanked would this tug be, and how viable would it be to actually use in hostile space?
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#178 - 2012-05-24 17:30:54 UTC
Well the issue is with those ships, is they can only be effectively utilized in low and nullsec. That leaves high sec shorted, but then again, you being a member of one of the nullsec blocs, I can't expect you to want anything to help high sec. I am putting forth this idea as something that will directly help everyone in New Eden, and not favor any one group.

Sure, in low sec and null sec, Supercarriers and Titans are effective.

But in high sec, the Orca is inadequate, as it is an Industrial Command Ship. It is not meant to haul ships around, and contracting involves having someone else accepting and then failing a contract, only to trade the item to you. A ship that could be utilized to actually haul these around rigged is ideal.

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Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#179 - 2012-05-24 21:14:48 UTC
Still supported...
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#180 - 2012-05-25 19:30:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Carrigan
Bedouin sketch removed because it looks like ****.

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