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CSM Member Issler Dainze: A Threat To The Legitimacy of the CSM and All of Lowsec

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Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#161 - 2012-05-19 09:41:21 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge.



I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.
flakeys
Doomheim
#162 - 2012-05-19 09:41:47 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Issler Dainze wrote:

So feel free to take it any way you want. But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge. There is no help coming. We face this challenge alone.




That's the problem with these types of idea's of wich the forums are filled with at the moment.Once your pos/freighter/hulk or whataver get's shot it is 'US/WE' and something needs to be done NOW , but before that happends you don't take the US/WE standpoint and just go on doing your own lill thing in your own game.

Take the miners for example.Usually mining is done as a solo thing in eve.Nothing social about it besides the few who hang on TS with their corpmates.They are not the interactive type , hell for a lot it doesnt even feel like an MMORPG.That in itself is not a bad thing it is how one likes to play so sure why not.But then when hulkageddon starts and they loose a hulk they suddenly become the social types throwing threads left and right on the forum how their 'brothers' out there should all band together and go on a strike or invade some goon nullsec turf.If you check their posting behaviour you'll notice for a lot it is even their first eve-o post after playing eve for years.Now there's some BIG irony in there.

Just like in rl in bad times only count on yourself and those right next to you.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#163 - 2012-05-19 11:14:13 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:


I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.


So so so glad my 4 accounts are now turning themselves off into darkness one by one.

The above quoted high point of intellectualism is just one example of the crap that spews out of the brains of those that wish to control a fictional Rumpus Room that this terribad game has become.


I'd much rather observe the corpse from a distance later on anyway.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Yukiyo
Blue Nine Industries
#164 - 2012-05-19 11:37:51 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
A call to action for my alliance to lift spirits during hard times MADE way out of context.

Read anything you want in it, but to make it more than that is folly.

Last comment I have to make about it.

Issler



Fixed your post for you, and highlighted the problem as you seem to need help with this.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#165 - 2012-05-19 11:44:31 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Gorki Andropov wrote:


I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.


So so so glad my 4 accounts are now turning themselves off into darkness one by one.

The above quoted high point of intellectualism is just one example of the crap that spews out of the brains of those that wish to control a fictional Rumpus Room that this terribad game has become.


I'd much rather observe the corpse from a distance later on anyway.



U mad, alt-bro?
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#166 - 2012-05-19 11:57:20 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:



I'd much rather observe the corpse from a distance later on anyway.



U mad, alt-bro?



^^

And it releases the first burst of putrescent gas........

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#167 - 2012-05-19 12:22:35 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Priceless - Goon tears about someone else's tears. On the Irony.

Stop crying and play the game. CSM is a joke, has been a joke and will always be a joke as long as it is a popularity contest instead of real respentation by each and every "Group" of players in the game.

3 PvP CSM Memebers (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 PvE CSM memebers (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 Industral CSM members (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 Miner CSM Members (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)

Each voted in by players in EVE.

This is the only way to make the CSM even close to worth it.


Oh I see, you want to make sure that Goons hold every CSM seat instead of just 1-2. OK.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2012-05-19 12:33:30 UTC
I'm confused. Since when did a thread pointing someone's mental retardation become a tears thread?

You guys are smokin some serious ****...
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#169 - 2012-05-19 12:39:02 UTC
Amarr Niam wrote:
IIt almost smells like a goon hate campaign to turn him/her into 'the great evil of EvE'.


It's just the beginnings of the Death Wails before the Collapse.

It happens to all dynamic systems, both mechanical and social. Ususally at the cusp of change. See more about Prigogenic Levels of Complexity (thanks for that 20 years ago Bruce Sterling).

Time passes. Goons will pass. EVE will eventually pass too.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#170 - 2012-05-19 12:43:57 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Issler Dainze recently sent this missive to her alliance:

Quote:

They Cannot Win!!
From: Issler Dainze
Sent: 2012.05.17 06:57
To: The Honda Accord,

So coward blimp ego mittens hired similar coward to destroy our POSs in Illamur. To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives, so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM. Basically Eve is beyond broken. CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

So what does BEEP become during the occupation? First, we hunt these bastards! They don't take us seriously! We have ships, guns and motivation. Goons in high sec are a joke! We make that clear to them.

We help drive the tide to take Eve back.

More about that soon, but players like us are the majority and we are fed up!! Let's take out game back!! Time for the bullies to have some of that sand that always like to talk about to be kicked in their face!

So let me know what you think, where is the future for us?

Issler


In this eve-mail, we can see Issler - a CSM member, who is supposed to work with the CSM to improve the game for everyone - trying to trash the CSM in a transparent ploy to attempt to cover up her massive failures as an alliance leader.

These destroys POS were in lowsec, where as even even a three-week old newbie who accidentally autopiloted through rancer knows, can be shot at by anyone. Lowsec being an area of "low security" is, as you might guess, a fundamental part of the game. Even the most vile highsec miner bleeting to have suicide ganking removed from the game does not dare challenge that there are places in EVE where you can shoot each other: he just merely wants to be immune in highsec.

Now, as anyone knows, if you go into lowsec, you risk getting blown up. Issler foolishly wasted her corporation's assets by placing them in lowsec, where her alliance was too weak to defend them. When - naturally - they got blown up, Issler could have owned up to her hideous mistake. Or not. But that would merely be a reason to snicker at her alliance some more, rather than a thread. Instead, Issler chose to continue her habit of self-aggrandizement at the expense of the CSM (repeatedly demonstrated despite the public remonstrations of the rest of the CSM). She chose to paint her complete failure as an alliance leader not as a personal failure flowing from her many flaws, but instead claiming that her alliance had suffered losses because it had "littlerally [sic] be[en] attacked by the CSM".

Had it? Well, let's ask Hans Jagerblitzen, or Two Step, or any of the fine CSM members who had no connection whatsoever to the CSM. One might ask if Issler herself had somehow attacked her own alliance - though one can make that case given her actions. Claiming that her alliance was "littlerally " attacked by the CSM claims the CSM is not a body representing EVE, but instead a faction within eve. One that Issler is expected to support and contribute to, but by all accounts has contributed less to than even Darius III.

Do the right thing, Issler: Resign. If you are incapable of comprehending who the CSM even is - and that they are not Pandemic Legion - then you ought not be on it.


My god you Goons are crybabies.

You can't tolerate anyone complaining about you ever you worthless thin-skinned cowards.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#171 - 2012-05-19 12:47:52 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge.



I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.


Does that mean you want your Cyno blankie taken away, you pathetic coward?

You know, the Blankie that lets a tard sit with a Titan all alone for a whole week in a system with an incredibly fail fit and still only barely get killed cause all he has to do is scream "CYNO! CYNO!" and 500 capitals drop from the sky to save him?

Oh, and let's not forget the passive income from moon-goo.
White Tree
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2012-05-19 12:52:22 UTC
Nice work, Issler. Never don't not be crazy.

Former member of CSM6.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2012-05-19 12:52:39 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge.



I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.


Does that mean you want your Cyno blankie taken away, you pathetic coward?

You know, the Blankie that lets a tard sit with a Titan all alone for a whole week in a system with an incredibly fail fit and still only barely get killed cause all he has to do is scream "CYNO! CYNO!" and 500 capitals drop from the sky to save him?

Oh, and let's not forget the passive income from moon-goo.


Too bad NPC-alt voices don't count.

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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#174 - 2012-05-19 12:57:49 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge.



I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.


Does that mean you want your Cyno blankie taken away, you pathetic coward?

You know, the Blankie that lets a tard sit with a Titan all alone for a whole week in a system with an incredibly fail fit and still only barely get killed cause all he has to do is scream "CYNO! CYNO!" and 500 capitals drop from the sky to save him?

Oh, and let's not forget the passive income from moon-goo.


Too bad NPC-alt voices don't count.


Too bad you don't get to decide that.

Goon coward.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#175 - 2012-05-19 12:58:06 UTC
La Nariz wrote:


Too bad NPC-alt voices don't count.


But the votes from their SIX Mains do.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#176 - 2012-05-19 13:02:31 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Does that mean you want your Cyno blankie taken away, you pathetic coward?

You know, the Blankie that lets a tard sit with a Titan all alone for a whole week in a system with an incredibly fail fit and still only barely get killed cause all he has to do is scream "CYNO! CYNO!" and 500 capitals drop from the sky to save him?

Oh, and let's not forget the passive income from moon-goo.


Is this an actual post or is it a "game mechanics I know nothing about" Mad Libs?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
White Tree
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2012-05-19 13:04:06 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


Goon coward.



GOON COWARD

Former member of CSM6.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#178 - 2012-05-19 13:06:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Snow Axe wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Does that mean you want your Cyno blankie taken away, you pathetic coward?

You know, the Blankie that lets a tard sit with a Titan all alone for a whole week in a system with an incredibly fail fit and still only barely get killed cause all he has to do is scream "CYNO! CYNO!" and 500 capitals drop from the sky to save him?

Oh, and let's not forget the passive income from moon-goo.


Is this an actual post or is it a "game mechanics I know nothing about" Mad Libs?


None of the more intelligence Goons, you know, ape-level, even bother arguing with this fact.

Because it is all very self evident.

Cause the PL tard did sit in that system, at one gate, with his fail fit, alone, for days, and was still only barely killed by an attack of over a hundred players.

That is experimental evidence.

The scientific method in action.

In any other game, ANY other game, he would have died instantly with no hope of survival and people would have been like "Dudes, wasn't that a little over-kill"?
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#179 - 2012-05-19 13:09:36 UTC
This is a pretty good thread for morning coffee.

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Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#180 - 2012-05-19 13:09:46 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge.



I don't feel this way at all. Don't you dare speak for me, you uppity mission-monkey.


Does that mean you want your Cyno blankie taken away, you pathetic coward?

You know, the Blankie that lets a tard sit with a Titan all alone for a whole week in a system with an incredibly fail fit and still only barely get killed cause all he has to do is scream "CYNO! CYNO!" and 500 capitals drop from the sky to save him?

Oh, and let's not forget the passive income from moon-goo.




How can I operate a cyno if I'm in high sec (as I clearly say in my post)? Please comprehend - or at the very least read - the post before internet word-sperging in a weird kind of impotent rage.