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Nullsec Local: How to remove it without completely tilting the scales.
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Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-05-19 10:25:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
we see all the time frigates and other ships catching anything from a frigate to a freighter to a super capital. This should be nothing new to you.

Yes, and this isn't dependent on local.


yes it is. you dont hunt someone if he is not in local. unless you happen to se himn log off, in which case you hope he logged agressed.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-05-19 10:27:01 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
yes it is. you dont hunt someone if he is not in local. unless you happen to se himn log off, in which case you hope he logged agressed.

Sounds like you're not blessed with interceptor pilots with good dscan skills. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-05-19 10:31:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
yes it is. you dont hunt someone if he is not in local. unless you happen to se himn log off, in which case you hope he logged agressed.

Sounds like you're not blessed with interceptor pilots with good dscan skills. vOv


I dont se how you put that and the rest in context together.
If you think thats a hit under the belt, then you are sadly mistaken. Lol
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2012-05-19 10:34:17 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
I dont se how you put that and the rest in context together.
If you think thats a hit under the belt, then you are sadly mistaken. Lol

Hey, you're the one who seems to think you need local to catch stragglers off of a fleet. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-05-19 10:36:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
I dont se how you put that and the rest in context together.
If you think thats a hit under the belt, then you are sadly mistaken. Lol

Hey, you're the one who seems to think you need local to catch stragglers off of a fleet. vOv


And you are the on that seems to think that you need to make sure noone can see you in local in order for you to catch someone and win the day P. Not to mention that you failed at the argument so now you lower yourself to scounduring the person behind the counter argument. Which in itself is a sign of weakness behind the personality.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-05-19 10:50:07 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
I dont se how you put that and the rest in context together.
If you think thats a hit under the belt, then you are sadly mistaken. Lol

Hey, you're the one who seems to think you need local to catch stragglers off of a fleet. vOv


And you are the on that seems to think that you need to make sure noone has local in order for you to catch someone and win the day P. Not to mention that you failed at the argument so now you lower yourself to scounduring the person behind the counter argument. Which in itself is a sign of weakness behind the personality.

Why would I need no local to catch anyone, or "scounduring" (whatever that means) anyone because I'm pointing out the fact that what you're "counterarguing" with, isn't dependent on local? Setup a proper scout network and you'll see where who are going.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-05-19 10:53:50 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
I dont se how you put that and the rest in context together.
If you think thats a hit under the belt, then you are sadly mistaken. Lol

Hey, you're the one who seems to think you need local to catch stragglers off of a fleet. vOv


And you are the on that seems to think that you need to make sure noone has local in order for you to catch someone and win the day P. Not to mention that you failed at the argument so now you lower yourself to scounduring the person behind the counter argument. Which in itself is a sign of weakness behind the personality.

Why would I need no local to catch anyone, or "scounduring" (whatever that means) anyone because I'm pointing out the fact that what you're "counterarguing" with, isn't dependent on local? Setup a proper scout network and you'll see where who are going.


We have good covert ops scouts, thank you very much.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2012-05-19 10:58:02 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
We have good covert ops scouts, thank you very much.

What do you need local for, then?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#89 - 2012-05-19 11:01:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
We have good covert ops scouts, thank you very much.

What do you need local for, then?


cos i am a social guy and i want to smack talk to the enemy. I also want to see all the blues in local.
you can still catch anyone even when they see you in local. so working as intended.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2012-05-19 11:05:47 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
cos i am a social guy and i want to smack talk to the enemy. I also want to see all the blues in local.
you can still catch anyone even when they see you in local. so working as intended.

If you want local to be a social arena, then I guess we can make it a regional thing, this way you can smacktalk him long after he's left your system, and you can see the sea of blues you've surrounded yourself with. Win-win.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#91 - 2012-05-19 11:10:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
cos i am a social guy and i want to smack talk to the enemy. I also want to see all the blues in local.
you can still catch anyone even when they see you in local. so working as intended.

If you want local to be a social arena, then I guess we can make it a regional thing, this way you can smacktalk him long after he's left your system, and you can see the sea of blues you've surrounded yourself with. Win-win.


no its not a win win. Its a win win for you maybe, not for me. There should be a home system advantage. Your idea, removes that.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2012-05-19 11:13:16 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
no its not a win win. Its a win win for you maybe, not for me. There should be a home system advantage. Your idea, removes that.

So you have a good scout network which keeps track of enemy fleets so you can catch stragglers, you can smacktalk them for as long as they're in your region, you can see all your blues to get that social bond thing going, and this is still not enough?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-05-19 11:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
no its not a win win. Its a win win for you maybe, not for me. There should be a home system advantage. Your idea, removes that.

So you have a good scout network which keeps track of enemy fleets so you can catch stragglers, you can smacktalk them for as long as they're in your region, you can see all your blues to get that social bond thing going, and this is still not enough?

you can still catch anyone with local with the present system. I like it just the way it is and i like it even more now with the improvemnts of the ui and compact mode. I see my friends where they are rather than they are "somewhere" and i have home advantage, I am happy. And it works as intended.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2012-05-19 11:25:01 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
you can still catch anyone with local with the present system. I like it just the way it is and i like it even more now with the improvemnts of the ui and compact mode. I see my friends where they are rather than they are "somewhere" and i have home advantage, I am happy. And it works as intended.

In other words, even though you have a "good scout network" and "good covops pilots", you still need local to track enemy fleets who are going for your space?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-05-19 11:32:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
you can still catch anyone with local with the present system. I like it just the way it is and i like it even more now with the improvemnts of the ui and compact mode. I see my friends where they are rather than they are "somewhere" and i have home advantage, I am happy. And it works as intended.

In other words, even though you have a "good scout network" and "good covops pilots", you still need local to track enemy fleets who are going for your space?


even thought you can catch anyone if they see you in local, you still need to remove local for everyone including blues?
even thought you got good interceptor pilots and scouts you still need have local removed?
even thought you still get good fights, you still need to have local removed?
even thought you rarelly get out of a region without a kill, you still need for local to be removed?
even thought you got spies can tell you where is what, you still need for someone not to see you in local?
even thought everything is working as intended and nothing stops you from doing what you want to do, you still need for local to be removed ?

we are going in circles.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-05-19 11:35:52 UTC
What's this about "catching anyone" or "not see you in local"?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-05-19 11:38:21 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
What's this about "catching anyone" or "not see you in local"?

shush, you are getting in the way of me watching the romania renegades promo video!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2012-05-19 11:50:44 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
What's this about "catching anyone" or "not see you in local"?

shush, you are getting in the way of me watching the romania renegades promo video!

That's okay, I'll wait. I mean, I assume there's a point there, somewhere.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-05-19 11:57:58 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
What's this about "catching anyone" or "not see you in local"?

shush, you are getting in the way of me watching the romania renegades promo video!

That's okay, I'll wait. I mean, I assume there's a point there, somewhere.


well the point is self explnetory. You dont want to be seen in local as if this prevents you from getting kills.
I must continue this discussion later. I got to get ready for squash. Will be back in 3 hours or so.
GL HF
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2012-05-19 12:00:49 UTC
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
What's this about "catching anyone" or "not see you in local"?

shush, you are getting in the way of me watching the romania renegades promo video!

That's okay, I'll wait. I mean, I assume there's a point there, somewhere.


well the point is self explnetory. You dont want to be seen in local as if this prevents you from getting kills.
I must continue this discussion later. I got to get ready for squash. Will be back in 3 hours or so.
GL HF

I don't get it, you're the one that's been talking about how not having local prevents you from getting kills, I haven't talked about the opposite. You seem to be projecting something. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat