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What is the caldari navy caracal good for?

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ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-19 07:41:42 UTC
I used to love this ships look, but I have struggled for years to find a good use for it. It makes an ok low level mission runner but the Drake can just do everything better.

What do you use yours for? With what loadout?
Ymmi Stenson
Future Overlords
#2 - 2012-05-19 07:45:54 UTC
Same as caracal, but with extra drone and slot.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#3 - 2012-05-19 08:26:52 UTC
It's a cheaper HAM Cerb with drones, but its quite underwhelming
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#4 - 2012-05-19 08:39:43 UTC
its a saw'd off drake, 6 launchers, +1 mid, and 3 light drones and with assault launchers(that it gets a bonus to) it grinds up friggs really well. It also is a great long range nano boat too.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#5 - 2012-05-19 09:54:27 UTC
I pretty much look at the Caracal/CN Caracal to be the missile dessie of the game.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-19 10:41:42 UTC
CN caracal is a better AML caracal.

with frigate agility.

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ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-19 10:46:56 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
I pretty much look at the Caracal/CN Caracal to be the missile dessie of the game.

With more tank

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CrazySpaceHobo
Haddock's Legitimate Trading
#8 - 2012-05-19 13:00:20 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
CN caracal is a better AML caracal.

with frigate agility.


This.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-19 15:58:53 UTC
honestly i didn't even know there WAS a navy caracal before this thread.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.

Alara IonStorm
#10 - 2012-05-19 16:16:45 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
honestly i didn't even know there WAS a navy caracal before this thread.

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Yabba Addict
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-19 22:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Yabba Addict
I threw a crapton of isk at one to make a ham lvl 3 boat, was pretty fun to fly too. no use against guristas because of the insane exp velocity their missiles have, but against the turret stuff it was pretty good

[Caracal Navy Issue, Level 3 CNC]
Overdrive Injector System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Pith B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Pith B-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Hornet II x3


I made it because of that huge gulf between lvl 3 and 4 missions and the drake was urging me to hang myself
Noisrevbus
#12 - 2012-05-20 03:49:38 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
CN caracal is a better AML caracal.

with frigate agility.


It's also the Caldari platform with the best overall mobility-reach profile. Not that it matters much today, but one of the problems with the Caldari boats in days of old was that they were simply too slow to keep up with oldschool SHAC tactics. The CN Caracal managed to hit just above that threshold and still be somewhat useful offensively.

As far as i can remember i held the Rook above it, after it's changes, since it's application still trumphs all other options and the ability to cut yourself free mitigate some of the survival issues. The CN Caracal always was second to that though, doing something worthwhile that wasn't simply better done in a Drake - since it could keep up - while the Osprey had speed but no bang and the HACs had the tendency to fall behind and get caught.

All of this still hold true, with the exception that the world around the ships have changed and there's not much appeal in a kiting platform just above the Tier 3 BC in the speed bracket, yet with half their damage on a delay for twice the pricetag. The Naga have remnants of these problems when you try to shoehorn them into comps with it's peers - thresholds and all that.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-05-20 14:19:38 UTC
ReptilesBlade wrote:
I used to love this ships look, but I have struggled for years to find a good use for it. It makes an ok low level mission runner but the Drake can just do everything better.

What do you use yours for? With what loadout?


It's a hell of a frigate/destroyer hunter, it can clean those in a blink of a eye with no effort.

brb

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2012-05-20 15:28:30 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
CN caracal is a better AML caracal.

with frigate agility.



This. It's basically a missile destroyer.

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Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-20 19:23:16 UTC
This, and the other navy cruisers are used often in FW. CNI is a ***** of a kiting/sniper ship in a hull-limited FW plex.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-05-20 23:52:22 UTC
Hrett wrote:
This, and the other navy cruisers are used often in FW. CNI is a ***** of a kiting/sniper ship in a hull-limited FW plex.


Damn you beat me to it.

Hull limited FW plexing does see a large amount of faction cruiser and frigate hulls inside. It's almost like having a T2 ship, and in some cases, better than having a T2 ship. CNIs are known for their good range DPS while the tankers catch as many ships as they can on the warp in. If they're caught though, they're toast.

So yeah, Hrett and I are on the receiving end of the Caldari and see these a bit more than most.

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper

Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-21 08:42:17 UTC
FW has great use for CNC's, as mentioned above, FW plexes have limited acces and a CNR is a moderated cheap way to get a top ship in. Scares of al sane frigate pilots and dessies.

also because of the way FW plexes are build range has it uses as well.

Ymmi Stenson
Future Overlords
#18 - 2012-05-21 09:35:47 UTC
If you fly it with tackler, like dramiel. Throw in very light nano fit with few target painters and watch those frigates absolutely melt down.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-28 11:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ReptilesBlade
Could someone give me a fit for flying cosmos mission of lvl 1-3 range for the Navy Caracal please? The set-up I use is basically a passive shield baby Drake and I hate it.

I am trying really hard to like this ship!
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#20 - 2012-05-28 19:05:29 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Alexa Coates wrote:
honestly i didn't even know there WAS a navy caracal before this thread.

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