Science & Industry

No, not the market.
So, where can you find the biggest juiciest Veld/Plag etc low end ores to mine?

Let me right off the bat say that for this thread profitability is irrelevant, only ease of acquisition matters. I have this strange urge for the last year or two, or three, to produce a cap or two from minerals I mined entirely myself. Then I would take this cap into combat, and I would care for this particular ship, not one of its identical counterparts, but this particular one, because I made it from start to finish, because I took time and effort to create it. And I would cry if I lost it.

Is there a list of k-space Grav site content somewhere?

I checked the content of W-space grav sites on Eve-survival.org, and they don't contain nearly enough low ends, the worst site which would probably be the best for this, Average Frontier, contains only roughly 14% of the trit required for a Moros, and 7% of the Pye, 8% of the Mex. A single of the best sites, Rarified Core, would give 83% of the Iso, 180% of the Nocx, 950% of the Zyd and 1005% of the Mega, so I could get the highends from one of those.

Is there some mission or other profession site that also contains massive amounts of low ends? Need over 100m trit.

Or would I just have to scour highsec belts, which I've understood is rather ..something... given that the roids pop so fast?


Sources I've used so far in my research:
Cerlestes Ore Table
Bloodtear Industry Index Report - Version 3 <--Would have to join a nullsec corp, I'd rather not corp-hop.
Eve-survival W-space Grav sites

Fun data points:
~60+ days to create a T1 strip Hulk char
~100+ days with T2 mining drones
~160+ days with all T2 crystals
~3-4bn to buy T2 crystal Hulk char

Your best bet, and safest bet, is to check nullsec systems, MABY npc space but i doubt it would be quiet enough, look for a nullsec alliance, find a system with refinery either next door or in system and make sure its a shitsec system, IE -0.0 or close to eliminate any possible veld or pyerite replacement. Look for lots of belts, another alt would be to find a 1.0 system with alot of belts, a refinery and mine there.

I *love* this. Completely irrational but I completely get it.

A non station system in highsec.

I would go with a null sec corp honestly since you want to build a cap and use it. In highsec, mail me for some system names that I had good luck with. Systems without stations are usually best.

Hmmm you could shoot rats at a belt whilst mining your trit and hope for the hauler spawns. I don't rat too much but this one time at band camp...

3 x Haulers with 50m trit in each
2 x Haulers with 25m trit in each <--- this one I blew up because I couldn't haul it

Fly safe. o7

Certainly I am


Now it's true I'm not an experienced miner, nor have I done it in ages. Buut, I have done a fair bit of calculations as you should have guessed, and of course I started with comparing yields for different fleet and ship setups with different boosts. If you thought I would single account entire belts, even systems, hehe, well, I can understand your reaction, but I assure you that is not my intent, Madam.

The high end portion I think I will find me a Rarified Core site and mine it out, also a new experience for me. Now the content figures vary a bit between DaOpa's, Eve-Survival and Wormnav, but if I just choose to go with Eve-survival, I calculate it should take me roughly (oh dear) 20-21h to mine it out, which shouldn't be impossible during the three to four days the site will last, even if we add 10% for various inefficiencies. Hard work (for a game), but not impossible. The real ***** would be the roughly 10h 26m spent compressing all that in 120 batches through the Rorq factory, if I got my calcs right, where I add 30 seconds to each batch, and a bit of extra by giving full time to the final, partial batch. Now that's a lot of clicking. Simply skipping the Spod would save me two whole hours of Rorq time. EDIT: Hurr durr, four lines in it, derp. So around two and a half hours spent Rorqualin'. Still somewhat unsure about Rorq operation, never flown one yet.

But at least it would all fit in a single freighter, all 14.4m m3 of uncompressed ore.

If you're worried about W-space survival and logistics, don't be. I've been handling that in one way or another since March 2009, I can manage, or pop and then try again.


The lowend portion would be even more laborious, given that the damn roids will pop pop pop mid cycle. The Veld roids I did check contained on average 6700m3 of ore, or roughly three cycles of Orca boosted T1 strips. Plag at 9450m3 / roid. So, click hell again, for multi-account hi sec mining.

I know we're quite some ways into fantasy land here with some seriously extrapolated numbers from very small amount of real data. Still, my extrapolated system content would be 32m Veld, 13m Plag and 14m Scord, giving more then enough Trit, Pye and Mex, would have a combined volume of roughly 10m m3, or 55 Orca runs and 13,6 hours to mine, just short of an hour per belt. Adding 30% for roid popping and other inefficiencies gives a almost 18 hours.


So that would put total mining time in the 30h range, and probably twice as much in pre- and post mining work, so a 90h project. Quite extensive for a zany idea in a game.



So yeah, what this post primarily proves, is that I *am* a dork.

But it's become something of an obsession of mine, and I've little doubt I'll get it done, though probably preparation work and skilling alts, as well as summer break, will push execution into autumn.

Oh and I have manufactured my first two caps (out of... seven now in total...I think, not counting F/JF) from minerals, but I bought those minerals so it doesn't quite count. I know what it takes to build them.

Think I'll go have a beer now. Or ten.