Player Features and Ideas Discussion

THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT OR MODIFICATION OF FIGHTERS OR FIGHTER BOMBERS!
just fyi

Raven's
Or Hawk's. Or Eagles.

hell, if they suck, call them Do-Do's.


Capsuleers in space, fighting for the heavens.
Dust marines on the ground, fighting for the islands in the sea of space.

Now what if, ON PC, and possibly other things that play games (nintendo DS) we introduce a space fighter game, where you fly the fighters that race through the thick of battles.

The dust marines get the war-barge.

The Ravens get the *name pending* but i personally like the ultra creative and never before used monicker of
"Mothership."

A few key points on how the minigame will work...

-the mothership can launch fighters from anywhere in system sans inside a POS, the commander (not the pilot), has a tactical view of the grid where any fight is taking place, direct vision if on grid, if off grid, the mothership will need designated target seeker ships to assist it. (like the ECM burst disables target locks, the Target Designator Module I will allow the proper ships to burst a selected target, therefor lighting up ships within 30km sphere of the targeted ship on the Motherships tactical viewer.) no support means targets cannot be primaried(therefor no bonuses to attacking targets), any launched fighters receive no telemetry, IE, no UI for the fighter pilots except ammo counters/shields/armor/hull. No 'radar' basically.

-Introduce new Anti-Fighter ship classes to eve(Low-level flak gunboat, chance to harm fighters, no damage to ships)

-Fighters can launch from the mothership directly into combat, or warp into the fray on a launched 'spawn probe.'

-pilots receive double rewards for dealing damage to primaried targets (as called by the mothership commander)

-dogfights between opposing fighter pilots if the opposing sides both have Motherships

- the pilots can 'clone' back to the mothership( when they die), swap out for different 'classes' of fighters like anti-ship or anti-fighter platforms such as

(Gallente) *railgun (anti-ship/ powerful /slow firing) or blaster (fast firing/ moderate to upper-lower/ anti-fighter)

(Minmatar) *Autocannon and rocket pods(anti-fighter/ ultra fast firing/ low damage/ fast strike), Artillery(extreme range) or
torpedoes (heavy anti-ship/very slow firing/ high damage)

(Amarr) * Pulse laser (anti-fighter/moderate fire rate/ moderate damage), Beam laser(anti-ship/high damage/ slow to
moderate firing/ long range but reduced damage over extreme distances)

(Caldari) * Homing rockets(near guaranteed hit,outfly incoming missiles? countermeasures?) & rocket pods (low to
moderate damage/low-mid rate of fire,anti-fighter and fast strike), Torpedoes(short range/high damage/slow
recharge/no homing/anti-ship) or Cruise Missiles (high range and homing/ mid-high damage/ slightly faster than
slow recharge/anti-ship)

***Caldari and Minmatar have better shield stats, Amarr and Gallente have better armor stats ** Damage is uniform, no resistances to block incoming damage to keep it simple. Damage should be based on and balanced with rate of fire/accuracy of weapons. For Example, an ultra-fast autocannon, shooting thousands of rounds, do barely any damage individually, but their spread of fire and sheer amount of rounds make up for very low damage, in an anti-fighter sense (anti-ship fighters should be useless in fighter on fighter combat except for the occasional lucky hit) whereas the blaster on a gallente fighter may have slightly better range, more focus, and slightly higher damage than the autocannon rounds, they fire quite slower. ***


-fighters do not deal with rolls on transversal/velocities/falloffs like ships in EVE. Being a pilot grants you first person view and control (joystick compatible) any damage translated to enemy fighters or enemy ships is a set damage based on the amount of pain a particular weapons hits with, and whether or not that weapon hits due to the pilots aiming. A fighter control scheme akin to freelancer/ X series / ace combat. Not exact copies, just the first person scheme, and having to actually aim on your own to hit and fly.

-bad piloting kills, these fighters should be weaker than your typical fighter or fighter bomber, these fighters are meant for numbers and air-supremacy, collisions in space should instantly kill both fighters, or just the fighter if they collide with a ship. collisions with ships should not damage the ship in question barely, if at all. cruisers on up you would think can repel asteroids when they collide, so a measly little fighter shouldn't hurt them.

-with the experience you gain, you can purchase skills, which you can apply to the existing fighter designs to improve rate of fire/ shield amount/ armor amount/ speed/ agility

-the mothership has a set number of fighters available, you cannot simply spawn in any random fighter you want, to use the fighter, there must be one in the mothership, if the mothership runs out of fighters, the enemy will have superiority and can focus on ships in the fleet.

Pro's:
-new immersive element to the EVE experience
-new tactical and strategic element to fleet engagements, if air superiority is held swarms of fighters can overwhelm defenses on ships, and if they're balanced right, potentially even hurt capitals.

Con's:
-potentially stress the servers to hell and back (although minimal rendering on EVE-side, letting consoles handle most the work could alleviate this. all EVE-side would need to do is communicate)
-time dilation screws with the whole idea


Feel free to:
-troll
-share ideas
-derail the thread
-tell me I should avoid the forums when I'm bored.

<- Featuers and Ideas that way.

Ill let you on a little secret, Eve secretly does not let you input movement commands more than once a second a few testers who've seen the error on sisi can attest to this.

I thought about posting there, but i heard it was a black hole, and it sucked up my willpower to post there.

well that's fine, because the game wouldn't be using Eve client, its be using its own, where you can use more than one per second

The idea was inspired by DUST, I'm pretty sure if a link between DUST and EVE is doable, then there might be a small ray of hope i can fly a rustbucket with UZI's blazing into a fleet of warships.

a game along the lines of DUST, but instead of fighting on planets, you fly a fighter in space, engage other fighters, and even warships piloted by eve players.

and again, I'm NOT advocating changing fighters or fighter bombers in any way, those are perfectly fine where they've been screwed around with.

just adds a new element to the game, an autonomous drone horde that can harass the enemy

nothing too fancy

I actually had a similar idea the other day while bored at the DMV. Ya it would be a ***** to program but it would certainly add something new to the game. As far as inputs go, I can't see how you could not add a mode where instead of click and drag meaning "turn camera" it means "turn ship." Or use the WASD keys as they have already done in stations and use the mouse to aim and fire weapons. If you want bonuses to the fighters attacking a primary target, just use add a warfare link to the mother ship and add a new mod similar to a target painter but specific to the role.

It is a novel idea however I could really only see it come to fruition some 3-5 years from now as it seems CCP has a bit on its plate right now.

I rather have fighter to fighter combat on gas planets.

Wait, wait.

I think OP doesn't know these are already names for existing things in the Eve universe.

Thread moved to F&I section.