Ships & Modules

I've known for a little while that I wanted to change from Gallente to another race. I thought about it, and deiced I wanted to go either Amarr or Minmatar. I have pretty much maxed out turret skills, so I could easily train tech II medium guns for lasers or artillery. Right now primarily fly battle ships and just do missions and what ever other else. But recently I've been wanting to explore more of this game, and decided that training racial cruiser five would be my best bet to try and explore new things. But I've been having a really hard time deciding whether I want to go Amarr or Minmatar. Looking over the tech II cruisers for both races, I'm sort of leaning towards the Amarr cruisers. They just seem to be more useful maybe? But then again I don't know much, maybe having the versatility of Minmatar and pretty well rounded ships is a huge plus for them? I don't know what to choose, and I don't want to have to train both. So any comments from experience players who have flown these would be apprenticed, thanks a lot.

How are your shield tanking skills? This will be something to consider as well since a good portion of Minn ships highly favor a shield setup. Your armor skills would translate over well with a transition to Amarr though.

Really neither at the moment, usually do things alone and if we do group up its a good mix.


My shield skills are up to somewhat up to par, I'm sure I could make slight improvements.


Well I'm more focused on using turrets as my main source of damage, drone skills need a while to get up there and so far from what I have seen and read about other races are that they are just flat out better then hybrid turrets. My "play style" hasn't really had time to forum I don't think. I just do really easy things, level 4 missions, light exploration, pi, mining. Don't really know what else to say to give more insight to my "play style". I don't think that people giving there opinions will be futile at all, it would help me make a decision.

Well I don't only have armor skills, I started as a Caldari pilot since that's what my friend said to go when I first started playing and chucked me into a Rokh...sigh. Anyway, I can use all tech II modules for shield tanking and have sufficient support skills for that. That's why I did want to choose either Minmatar knowing they primarily shield tank or Amarr knowing they armor tank. I wouldn't have a problem with either, tanking wise.

That not thing about not reloading and switching them instantly is pretty nice... I've been used to having to use 2+ tracking computers for my Kronos to hit things pretty consistently even at close range. The main thing I think that I would be doing once I do get cruiser 5 is exploration, looking for vigils and watch outposts etc. But I think I can use all of the other tech II cruisers since I have core competency elite.

I'll wait and see what other people say about the Minmatar ships, I still have a few months before this happens tho, have a pretty hefty skill queue lined up.

Edit: PS I know what fall off is, Don't take me for a total noob. lol

It's true enough for this guy.

How does gallente fit into any of that again? Also, why wasn't the first paragraph mentioned before now?


See, when people have to pry information out of you, it puts them off from wanting to help you specifically and if they post anything, it'll generally be skewed towards their personal favorite of what they like or stereotypes of what you like, as opposed to answers specifically tailored for you, hence the tone of my posts.

I cross trained from gallente to minmatar and haven't regretted it a bit. Minnie cruiser 5 offers more options and all T2 minnie cruisers are very good, the vagabond and munin are 2 of the best HACs in the game, the Huginn and Rapier are both very good ships, Broadsword is probably the best hictor, Scimi is the preferred logi for shield fleets.

Amarr cruiser 5 isn't bad either, Zealot is the best HAC in the game but the sacrelige is one of the worst (the eagle and diemost are probably the only 2 that are worse), the curse is pure evil and the pilgrim is also a pretty nasty ship, Devoter is the best armor tanked hictor, and the guardian is THE armor logi.

its a tough call, as minnie/amarr are the 2 best choices for T2 cruisers. Might as well train both.

If you normally run with logi supported fleets (either for pvp or WH/Incursions) then you will want to match your tank to your logi type, so if you normally fly in armor fleets go amarr crusier 5, if you normally fly in shield fleets go minnie cruiser 5.

If your also looking at T3 options then go minnie all the way, the loki is just flat out a better ship than the legion.

I don't recall ever being asked to why I want to change, and I don't really think that matters. I only brought up Caldari ships to re-explain why I have shield skills.

First, show me where you explained what it is about gallente ships that you do not like in your OP. Second, you were asked about this in the first sentence of post number four. Third, you only mentioned having some shield skills when asked. Fourth, no other race is better with hybrid turrets than gallente (imo). Fifth, do you no longer wish to use hybrid turrets? Sixth, did you know that the vexor, myrmidon and dominix work just fine without hybrids? Seventh, did you know that you can use ships without having max skills for them and still perform well by simply doing a lower level mission?

it's actually relative. since lasers have the shortest falloff of the game, they really do hit hard or miss lots only by having the target moving a few km away/closer.


anyways to the OP:

amarr really. matari are also good, but if you came from gallente you'll need more skill training than amarr.

from gallente to amarr, all you need is to train up racial cruiser and weapons and starting to polish missiles up to med launchers a bit (sacriledge).