EVE General Discussion

Greetings capsuleer,

As you would have seen, a number of capsuleers have offered suggestions. They, like your idea, have been suggested many, many times. I'll repeat a few more here:

• Mine in a battleship while events like this are on. As a hull it is not optimised, but you sacrifice yield for durability.
• Fit your barge for a bit more durability. It is not guaranteed to work, but it may give you enough time for CONCORD to respond. Then you can laugh in local.
• D-scan. It is a tool. Use it. There is a good guide for survival in low-sec; the same applies now. It may not be fun, but with practice it becomes second nature and knowledge of an approaching foe gives you a chance to react.
• Engage friends. Mine in a group and rotate so some are flying either webbers or ships capable of an equal alpha strike. It might just be a deterrent.
• Mine in a different location. New Eden is vast and you can find a dead system easily enough. In my regular haunts in low-sec there are areas where nobody will pop up for hours on local.

Security Status, like 0.7, gives people the impression they are safe. They're not. All it means is that CONCORD will respond and punish the person that blew you up. The only person that can make you safe is yourself.

Regards,

Shian Yang

You know that the graphic goes from rigth to left, rigth?

Greetings capsuleer Porto,

So, to conclude, we can say that Goons are not killing EVE. Natural selection and the culling of the herd is?

Regards,

Shian Yang

Even tho I dont mine in hisec, these do seem like good suggestions to help survive ganking,

the reality is though that we live in the real world, and that a massive majority of hisec miners are not going to go to all the trouble of spider webbing, dscanning ad nauseam blah blah blah, because the returns in hisec arent worth it,

the attitude overall is that most hisec miners enjoy mining while doing other things like watching tv etc,

now you can jump up and down and tell em, 'NO YOU GOTTA DSCAN CONTATLY FOR HOURS ON END" Sure you can tell them that, but the result will be just what we've seen on the server graphs, massive reduction in population.

Gank botters and you'll get more players, gank innocent miners who just wanna chill out, and you'll get pathetic server graph numbers, thats the facts and you wont change them by forcing miners to break their fingers dscanning a trillion times.

Yup. My 4 Accounts are cancelled. This new one still has a week left of Trial and the paid month before going quiet.

Have spoken with 3 others who are quitting multi-accounts after over 3 years of playing. And those players were all in my home system. I'm sure there are others.

It's just too much trouble to actually have any real fun anymore.

The game has been utterly rebranded into only one Method of Fun. It's a sandbox, but the steering wheel is fixed (by Goons) and the speed is regulated by a governor (CCP).

I need a new highway..................

Nice you don't have to be able to outrun your predator, you just have to be able to get into warp faster than the gang down the belt , I like it



lol I know, but there is considerably more chance of going pop during hulkageddon than at any other time, unless GSF or similar decide they're going to run another interdiction. Personally when I do dust off the hulk I tend to fit a tank rather than go for max yield, Months on end of living in wormholes tends to make you paranoid, because everybody IS out to get you there

Fun to only mine highsec with 4 accounts in EVE is it? How much you must have missed in this form of entertainment known as video games.

I will not call you out on the bullshit but let others think for themselves, so take care

Or you could just pay attention to local and d-scan, but I don't think anyone would suffer mining if it was not done botting or in the very least, 90% afk.

You would think miners would whine to CCP making it fun and more rewarding, instead of whining about getting killed once a year.

But I digress.

Who am I to argue how someone should play their game/sandbox by not actually playing it and instead watch TV, read a book or play pogo when logged in.

Disclaimer: <- not a goon

It's not fixed by goons, it's fixed by bullies witch is an encouraged behaviour wince almost every high/low rule tends to accept if not promote that attitude.

If you take a close look you'll find out that actually Goons by their decisions and effort had the greatest Eve history success to make several alliances work together (some were red to each other) and form the greatest coalition of Eve history, making the space they hold probably the best part of Eve for pvp in gangs, very rich in targets or resources.

Are some of them jerks, scamers, uninteresting dudes yadayada? -of course, you have to realise it's a coalition of over 7500 players to admit there might be other thing than usual yadayada "goons are jerks".
Then you should realise that since you're not purple, green, blue start or blue cross you're a target, that simple and it's the same formula in whatever alliance.

If you knew eve for a while now you should know nothing or little is done when it has to, but when CCP can't do it other way (cf last year conflict)
-makes years everyone says high sec is far too safe for jerks, not for carebears = nothing is done
-makes years everyone or almost says gank in high sec makes eve look like a joke = nothing is done

Now, what the hell goons have to do with this and some more other issues that make a lot of players leave the dam game?

Fight with them, fight against them, you'll find out how much fun Eve can be. But you should not think that goons waste the game because they actually play it in a far fair way than the average high sec publord does.
Do they drive it? -it's a player driven content so at some point they do but those actions are probably more subtle and directed than the average player can understand.

If there weren't goons the game would probably be boring. Once again, join them or fight them, actually just play Eve and have fun.

This here right there.

Goons, Hulkageddon, Burn Jita, NullSec politics, carebears, griefers... all farts in the wind.

None of it would matter in the least if it were fun.

Nothing can kill EVE but EVE.