Jita Park Speakers Corner

Null Sec - Will Winter be the TotalHellDeath patch? What is 'The Ultimate Plan' for where CCP sees 0.0 heading?

Farms and Fields? Ultracaps? Supertitans? What should CCP do to "fix" 0.0? Or is 0.0 just fine as is?

I think the current risk-reward balance is very very wrong for most of the game, so yeah, I don't think *anything* is off the table right now.

Make local chat regional, and/or optional.

And let's not forget the third elephant in the room, which is rampant power projection and ease of logistics. In this regard, remove JBs and jumpdrives of all ships.

This is completely untrue and saying that local is anything more than a part of a greater intel apparatus is an unfounded argument. Changing local without balancing other aspects of the game would break the game in favor of one niche playstyle which would become immensely overpowered.

It's not safe, it's safer.

I think the biggest problem with power projection are the incredibly long timers (dominion sov)

From the moment when you drop SBUs to the final station shoot the defenders have about a week before you need to deal with it.

Imagine your alliance leaders playing a big game of Civ 5 in space. Now imagine that it takes 20 turns to take over a city. You could leave your entire empire undefended and stomp around the map with one giant army that could come home and put out any fires. That's pretty much blob warfare there.

Now look at people setting up PoCos in lowsec. Those things have a 1-2 day timer so any lowsec alliances with planets keep their empires close together because they are always having to run around swatting away people all the time.


Oh yeah and whatever dev decided to put all the tech moons up north is the one responsible for OTEC, not the people who live there. If you put one unique resource where I live then you'd better believe that I'd make it cost way more than it should too.

At what point did we stop talking about null sec and start talking about elephants?

Do you wanna know why more people don't flock to null-sec? Its not because they can make more ISK in high sec or even that its safer. That's a joke. Anyone keen on any kind of exploration (beyond 100% scan sites) knows Incursions are chump change compared to the real ISK to be made in null-sec. Hell, I out ISK Incursions every single time I'm short on cash in low-sec. (deal with it) Let me make this point clear: ISK is not the factor that keeps people away.

The truth of the matter is, people stay away because of... the people. Just because you don't know how to make ISK, is not my problem. I'd rather die fighting in a small gang of friends, then achieve victory in a blob of people that I don't even care about. Want to "fix" null sec? Make it so that the accomplishments of the little guy mean more then the accomplishments of the blob.

Agreed, tech needs to be nerfed. CCP has been talking about ring mining, very interested to see what that is going to actually mean in practice. I'd love for the whole moon mining thing to go away, would be much more fun and social to need to get a bunch of space ship nerds together at an alliance level to mine the equivalent of tech.

0.0 Industry needs some serious love. if CCP touches our logistics capability without FIRST making 0.0 a place to actually mine/build stuff I'll punch Elise in the ****.

Power projection is a non-issue in my opinion. Jumpbridges are one of the few things that actually makes owning sov worthwhile, take it away and Test (and many others) will drop sov.

Make more/better system upgrades, but allow them to be targeted like a station service and with the EHP that a 30-40 man gang could disable it if they shoot it for say 30 minutes. Having Local be a upgrade would be pretty cool.

We need a way to punish nerds that live in NPC null while not being able to completely evict them. We should be able to shoot NPC station services just like any other station.

Alliance hangars/roles would be AMAZING and would make life so much easier. It would allow more people to get involved in the day to day running of a alliance.

A lot of things have been broken for 2+ years, you have Incarna to thank for that.

As for Tech, obviously it needs fixed, but CCP need to be careful how they do it. Tech having the value it does already is an accident, and if they rush in and halfass a "fix", they'll just create a whole new Tech with a different name.

"Small" has to be able to make a difference. We have moved from a multitude of 'players/contenders' to a handful (if that) .. blocs have always existed but the extreme it has been allowed to de-evolve into is doing more harm than good.

Revisit the original plans for Dominion, you know the ones where mechanics would spread out fighting and make active patrolling of space a necessity .. all the lovely high-flung ideas they threw around when presenting their concept for that expansion.

In short: Anything that confronts the "More is better" paradigm. We still need/want the big blow-outs, but they shouldn't be the only thing.