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Railboats with rails are currently the most useless weapon/ship combo in game
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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-13 06:37:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
Rail boats such as the ferox and rokh are pathetically weak, and yet rails still have higher fitting requirements than blasters making them unusable without extreme skills, and in most situations rails are useless anyways. I propose rail boats receive a boost in damage while rail guns receive a lowering in tracking speeds. If caldari are supposed to use rails and missiles it would help to make rail boats actually worth using.


Trade rail boat resistance bonuses for damage bonuses, and MAYBE increase natural resistances by a small amount.


EDIT: Can this be moved to ships and modules?
Johnny Aideron
Order of Rouvenor
#2 - 2012-05-13 16:09:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Aideron
Large railguns actually do decent dps. A Naga provides great DPS out to the 80-100km range. It's medium railguns that need a look at, they lack a role at present due to their low alpha, mediocre range and lacklustre dps. You can go to the bother of fitting 250mm railguns (with difficulty) on a cruiser but they don't do any significant damage compared to their fitting requirements.

I believe they need another damage buff in this order:
dual 150mm railguns 5% damage buff
200mm railgun 10% damage buff
250mm railgun 15% damage buff

In combination with better damage scaling for ammo types as I discuss here,
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108081&find=unread , so that their dps does not taper off so significantly at range.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-05-14 07:12:35 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Rail boats such as the ferox and rokh are pathetically weak, and yet rails still have higher fitting requirements than blasters making them unusable without extreme skills, and in most situations rails are useless anyways. I propose rail boats receive a boost in damage while rail guns receive a lowering in tracking speeds. If caldari are supposed to use rails and missiles it would help to make rail boats actually worth using.


Trade rail boat resistance bonuses for damage bonuses, and MAYBE increase natural resistances by a small amount.


EDIT: Can this be moved to ships and modules?


The Rokh is fine, shut your mouth.


Look if you want to be ******** on your own time thats fine, but toying with one of the BEST platforms in the game because you're completely ignorant of how to use it is fine by me.

PL used to use abbadons, now we've switched to rokhs, almost exclusively, for a HUGE number of reasons, not the least of which is the 5 second reload times and multi ranged ammo that allow us to stay at peak DPS no matter the range of the opponent.

I have a better suggestion for you, perhaps you should learn about rails before crying about how they don't work.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#4 - 2012-05-14 18:33:36 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:


EDIT: Can this be moved to ships and modules?




Lol, what? What makes you think that that place is the right place for this?
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-14 19:19:11 UTC
Johnny Aideron wrote:
Large railguns actually do decent dps. A Naga provides great DPS out to the 80-100km range. It's medium railguns that need a look at, they lack a role at present due to their low alpha, mediocre range and lacklustre dps. You can go to the bother of fitting 250mm railguns (with difficulty) on a cruiser but they don't do any significant damage compared to their fitting requirements.

I believe they need another damage buff in this order:
dual 150mm railguns 5% damage buff
200mm railgun 10% damage buff
250mm railgun 15% damage buff

In combination with better damage scaling for ammo types as I discuss here,
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108081&find=unread , so that their dps does not taper off so significantly at range.

Buff the boats otherwise gallente ships would still be preferable to Caldari in terms of damage
Asheru
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-18 05:54:30 UTC
The rokh can project dps out over 300km away if needed. It isn't meant to be doing huge dps. That's why it doesn't get the hybrid damage bonus. Honestly, if you want the 25% damage bonus of the hyperion, then fly the f'king hyperion. Don't cry on the forums until CCP homogenizes their game a little more. If CCP bent over every time someone bled on the forums, there would just be 1 race and 1 weapon system.