EVE General Discussion

Agree 100%
Remove High Sec too.

Burn EVE. Lets see if a 9 year old game can recover when the exodus begins. Lets find out how many people want to pay to play a glorified Travian.

No, because if CONCORD didn't exist EVE online would still be like 5k subs. What no one understands...you the human can do anything to the other guy such as just bash him into the ground (lol at that harrasment clause, bet its almost never called into question)...but the other guy may no longer care to play EVE online. So...CONCORD sets the limits to how much you are willing to bash the other guy until he is sitting in a newb corp with perhaps a few tens of million left, a couple of frigs, and wondering if he still wants to play EVE. Get it? CONCORD = limiter for you, when all other options fail as the guy isn't in low/null/wormhole space and he just can't be wardeced.

And Simi...I would love to meet you too, bet you crossdressing forum avatar whose real name is Beauford and you collect buttons or postage stamps . Cage fighter? Does that mean I have anger issues...probably...more so that CCP has to dumb down game mechanics because some players can't adapt by flying captial ships (sub caps popping to Titan guns) but other players asking for buffs are told no they have to adapt (Hulks fitting tank instead cargo expanders) because suddenly destroyers are the new disposable titan (figuratively). Nerf Titan, Buff the hulk, balance the Destroyer...hey maybe I would stop boiling coffee by staring if all the things people spent time training for (requiring real world time and money that can't be recovered) were not invalidated so easily because some other dudes can't cope with it.

So in theory, there is a level of merit to be had, *IF* human players can join the ranks of Concord. I know that at face value sounds a bit deplorable, but finer tuning the idea could actually benefit EVE.

Throwing some ideas into the cloud, players that join the PC wing of Concord are effectively locked in to the roaming of high sec, protecting law abiding citizens. ANYONE flagged as criminal or otherwise unsavoury are effectively free game to said player wing of Concord.

This would allow CCP to flag known botters as potential player policing (by flagging as suspicious) etc. NPC Concord just do what they continue to do, but it just adds another mechanism for human controlled police to enforce the parts of EVE high sec that CCP dont have time / resources to micro-manage.

Several rules could govern such as:

* PC concord are unable to fire upon law abiding citizens.
* PC concord will be able to engage, and deal law to criminally flagged targets.
* PC concord will be able to target / scan vessels for contraband. Automatically flagging to criminal if found, so able to engage.
* PC concord unable to exit high sec space in concord ships.
* PC concord players cease to represent concord if using non concord provided vessels, as such a player reverts to 'normal' game mechanics.

I'm sure folk can theorise a lot more potential uses for human policing in EVE, and in reality no game breaking problems would ensue.

I'll be really interested to hear if folks would actually like a chance to LEGALLY hunt *known* BOTS (investigated and confirmed by CCP). Plus patrol the skies of high sec in what could be described as the first step of the PvP ladder..

If done right it could be great for EVE.

Confirming that only care-bears get shot at. Oh wait, no.

My only problem with removing concord is that the space will be instantly gobbled up by the most powerful alliance - which is fair enough, but then absolutely no one will ever be able to get rid of it. So it will be "do X if you want blue status", or else. This would make it pointless to play as anything other than that alliance.

Given the high population of high sec, it seems the players did decide.

Remove CONCORD? Nah. Make CONCORD temporarily tankable (with an escalating, proportional increase in damage to prevent perma-tanking via RR), and not an instant-death trigger? Yes.

The high-low-null method of space separation is flawed because given the choice, the majority of people will go to high. Most people dislike the concept of guaranteed loss; it's human nature. EVE Online is high-sec. Null-sec exists purely to provide an arena environment for the FPS fans. So on one hand, you have a part of the game that's simply a pay-to-play battleground, and on the other, you have a part of the game that provides total safety unless you're AFK. Get rid of the ability to choose between these two parts, and EVE can finally become what it's been advertised as for the past nine years.

I think you are confusing "flaw" with "not working the way I want".

There you have the biggest problem with 99.99% of player-made suggestion. Spot on. +1.

No concord, no miners, no miners no ships, no ships no pvp, game finished gone kaboom.

This poster is under the illusion that people only mine in high sec, under concord protection. Didn't you ever ask yourself where all that megacyte and zydrine comes from that you buy on the market to make your high sec ships?

You are missing a big chunk of the picture, and you will never understand until you actually go to nullsec. But with your current attitude I recommend against it because you will only be disappointed.