EVE General Discussion

Eve offers soemthing no other MMO can (as far as I know) : Single shard server, meaning your actions mean something & it's harder to hide in the anonimity of the masses.
It also offers great moments, they might be more rare then in traditional MMO's, but the impression lasts longer. From being able to outrun that lowsec gang chasing you, to participating in a large fleet brawl, it's you doing those things, and there's no solidly written script.
Even the *PvE* content can't escape the PvP side, when ninjasalvagers & baiters enter missions, or when people gank miners. It's up to you to answer that intrusion in your gameplay.

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Why do you care?

which mmo? chances are less people play it than eve.

what? eve has grown, everytime someone has said " it seems somehow Eve is driving the niche players away" eve has done nothing but grow afterwards.

And obviously it can't be because it's becoming WoW. Think about it, do you know one successful mmo based off wow? That has more subs now than it did when it was released after a year? or even a quarter of what WoW has for players?

That's right, you can't, because making a wow clone is the perfect way to grantee your game will fail.

Eve is still going strong, because it offers something nothing else does. And it's growing because it's not turning into WoW, it's growing because it's becoming a better more useable game. That the neo com or the new items UI, or the new Contracts UI. Look at the missile effects, and the fitting window. Captains Quarters might be useless to us players now, but to new players! omg the PI window, the big screen telling players about the world. It shows them ships they could fly, new changes to the game, nearby missions and agents, what Conchord is.

The new tutorials are sleek and effective. They still need a lot of work but that's teling of how poor eve was before.


It's a lot like sc1 compared to sc2. Hardcore gamers say changes like, being able to move more than 16 units at a time ruined the game, because it made it easier. And on one hand they are right. There is a sc2 mod that turn the game in broodwar. And my APM is 3 times higher with everything you need to click.

When you build a worker you have to remember to go back to that base, click the worker, and make him mine. I the new game you can just rally them to the minerals. So yes this does "dumb things down" since obviously you could gain a huge advantageous by being fast enough to control your 7 stacks of 16 units with different hotkeys while checking each base right at 30seconds to make the new miner go get minerals.

Sorry my point is, while it might be dumbing down the game, it is not doing so without reason. And it's not turning it into WoW or making it anyless of a niche title. It's just driving out players who appreciated the added level of difficultly in a game that literally when I started playing eve, give you about 30,000 of skills, put you in a rookie ship, gave you the basic controls and then, BAM, your in space, go do stuff.

This left only the most hardcore to brave eve's cold universe. And while I might have been there from the start, I love these new changes, and I have hated some other changes that did in fact turn the game in the wrong direction. BUT OVERALL, eve is going to become what it was allways meant to be and what many players and devs could envision a long time ago at fanfest 2. There was talk all the way back then about putting an fps into eve, to fight over planets.

Eve is a force of gaming that almost lost it way. The monocle expansion literally lost eve 50-60,000 subs. While other things like the new items UI, war changes and neocom might SEEM like people hate it, no one will really leave, because there is no where to go.

eve is badass

in 5 years we are going to have the most epic, sick, polsed , pretty, sandbox title to ever see the world of gaming. I mean for gods sake the are adding Mobile Armor mechs to Dust 514, and letting dust and eve players share the same stations so they can meet, and bet on dust matches/ gamble over a game of texas hold'em. Then you undock and shoot the planet.

They are going to let us undock from our ships into asteroids and explore on foot, and if our ship outside is killed, the only way back is with a bullet to your own skull.

EvE Online is and will always be, the most impressive mmo ever made. At least until they stop putting 300 people on it a year and let some other mmo catch up in the future. But at the moment, I really do believe them when they say they have a 10 year long plan for eve and dust. And where it takes us will be an exciting ride as it gets easier and easier for more players to GET eve when they log in. The more the merrier!

While I agree with you that this is indeed the case, I'm perplexed as to why this is so, considering that the majority of expressed sentiment is in favor of reducing risk, discouraging non-consensual interaction, and essentially "gentrifying" the game.

Half the forum posts are literally "game X allows me to do this and that, EVE needs to as well before it dies."

And you say you play guild wars- WoW and eve etc etc players will laugh
If you say you play WoW others will laugh
If you play aion all will laugh

The list goes on and on and on. No MMO player will accept you play other MMO. I was reprimanded by CCP manifest for saying I would be playing WoT during a fail patch.

Sounds like Jita to me

Other MMO's? Pffft, Eve is the first MMO I played, I've tried Rift, WoW and STO (my god it's an abomination) and I found they didn't compare to the depth and downright nasty bastard player made content in Eve. I play because Eve is hard, compared to the themeparks out there, & is full of people with plans for galactic domination, pirates, gankers, nullbears and carebears alike

I heard Blizzard, Sony, Trion, CCP, Lucasfilms, Funcom, and every game company in Korea are jokes. And that was in the last week.

Game forums are so entertaining to read up on over the years. 90% of the conversations repeat over and over. It's like an old soap opera.

Everybody in this topic say Eve is the best mmo but in the others talk about changes ! If you love it why want changes and change the community playing it ?
Allways talk about high sec players or null sec players... Eve is the best MMo because everybody can find his own way and style of playing !