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What are you talking about? just go to POS, open each window separately, go about business as usual, whats the problem here?

you never even need to open the new UI to get all those windows open, you're creating a problem when there is none.

YOu can shift click to open a new window EVERYWHERE. just open them, close new UI, BAM you have seperate windows. You won't even know the difference, your just trying to find something to complain about.

Except not...unless you found a way to access any form of storage place w/o using the new UI...with its own tree and uddles of extra TMI spammed everywhere

Shift clicking is great and all....well it would be, if it every remembered what each of those extra instances of the UI contained individually and where it was and how big. Currently the Shift-click windows just open where the last one was opened...so you would have to move and re-size all those windows each shift-click, each time you went to the POS...

Also, the old system allowed you to view the needed hanger tab w/o the fuss or hassle of seeing the others...now in order to view one tab, you must have all of them populating the tree, which means you either have to scroll for ages or have the whole UI window so large it takes up the whole screen...using a POS that has alot of arrays is just plain messy.

This is NOT a product ready for the masses, and should thussly be delayed until you have the same functionality and useability of the of the system it is replacing. When new one takes more clicks/scrolling/time....it is NOT an improvement.

CCP, please just understand that we are not saying "its bad b/c its new and i don't like it"...its bad b/c it functions horrendously and does not improve the usability of the inventory, i'm actually surprised you guys like it, maybe not enough time spent doing more rigorous tests...bringing a mining orca to the POS to dump ore into one of the arrays....is a nightmare now...used to be ONE click, ONE drag...DONE how is this new system faster while taking up the same amount of screen space?

I wonder if the actual undisclosed use of this new UI is twofold

First to become a ‘Unifying’ UI between Eve the game and Dust (as I’ve pointed out in the official blog thread)

Second, to remove the ‘Station Services’ panel completely

However as I discovered when it was pointed out by my Son, both of us very rarely use the Neocom, most of the time we use the right click menus and the merged ‘Ships and Items’ windows on the Station Services panel.

This is the fundamental problem with the design of the UI, I tend to operate towards the right side of the screen, it’s where I keep my overview, my cargo container, ships, most everything, I suppose because I am right handed.

The UI tries to make me work on the left of the screen, the inventory button is on the left, and also the tree view is left.
But I naturally ‘park’ my mouse pointer on the right near the station services or overview. I even keep my ‘Selected Objects’ under the Overview with Drones below it when in space, all on the right.

Ah well such is life, just when you think you have Eve cracked they move the goalposts yet again. One day I’ll learn how to play this game .

Yes I did know that, I have tried it in the past when we were testing (getting very frustrated with) the new 'Task Bar' version of the Neocom on SiSi some time ago (it was withdrawn [scrapped?]), but it just didn't seem to work with me.

Most of the changes coming next week are fine and I like them a lot but this new UI for some reason I just can't get to grips with at the moment.
Old age I suppose, I was building and programming computers before most of the players on here had left kindergarden, but thats another story .

Yes indeed. I would be content with this state of affairs so long as once I told a certain type of window to be its own window, it stayed that way until I told it otherwise. If I open my cargo hold as a separate window, I'd like all ship cargo holds to open as a separate window, in the same size as instructed, in the same place as instructed, with the tree view visible or hidden as instructed. The implementation is approaching this -- I'd just like to see it take that one last step.



There isn't a button to take me directly to my ship window any more. I click on the inventory button and go to the tree. Hey, look, my ships! Why click any further? Why should I suddenly have to click further when a single click used to show me all of my ships in a station hangar? I'd really like it if we could pin various roots of the inventory tree to the neocom bar.



I look forward to getting there. You've put in some nice tools, and it would be fabulous if I could customize the layout of this new inventory system to let me use those tools to the utmost. But every time I session change or switch ships or have to open a mess of new windows when I'm looting something, any visual customization I've done flies out the window. This is strange to me; so much of EVE allows customization to your individual needs. You can move the HUD, your targets, your overview, the neocom, and the location of all of the other windows you can open from the neocom. All of these individual components can be customized further. The new inventory system...less so.

well how would you open them right now, on TQ. Do that but holding shift. then move them over each other and they become an old school tabbed window without the tree on the left.

also note I agree, it needs to remember UI settings, like the current system, but fix that and it's brilliant. and optional.

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Make the blueprint copies stackable please.

The current inventory system is very unfinished and should NOT be released at any cost in current state. As it states in devblog, pretty much everyone uses inventory many times per day, and with its current form, it gonna spawn a huge torrent of tears.

I understand what it is modeled after, but trying to make us do stuff in ONE window, while the ONLY WAY to move stuff is DRAG-N-DROP, is totally hilarious.

Yes i know, you can drop to those tiny rows on the left, and if you screw a few pixels down/up, you end up in some places you could never expected your stuff to be in, like corp hanger division you dont have access to.

HINT:
Current system: click - open window 1, click - open window 2, drag, PROFIT.
New system: click - opens window, find in LONG LIST what you need as window 1, click to show it, drag to tiny row on left bar, miss (since its so tiny, and you are in a hurry), SHIFT-click to open new window, drag again, rage about random windows covering the screen in random locations.

So basically, to fix all this mess, requesting following features:

1. Lots of Inventory buttons pinnable on screen AND neocom, each remembers its place, layout, AND tree position. Access your ships drones often? Have you favorite division in corp hangers? Access stuff in cans often? Pin it all to different Neocom buttons.

2. Inventory windows are stackable already, which is good, but how im supposed to move stuff from one tab to another? (make them remember position/stacks too pls...)

3. There should be more than one drag-drop way to move stuff. How about right-click option "Send To..." which then expands into that tree and allows you send stuff somewhere without opening anything. I bet many ppl would love this instead.

4. Ship list doesnt show my active ship for some reason, which is very misleading. No idea if it supposed to be that way, but now it looks like ships are missing, then appear/disappear into thin air when you change them.

This particular scenario ALONE is more than enough to scrap the upcoming inventory UI approach.