EVE General Discussion

No, Its the fact that we run with "Correct" Fittings, Not x4 LSE's and trying to get our nightmare's cap stable, Why would i lie about a fact, I am sorry that you run in public fleets.

There is a difference between ISN and other incursion community's, Its called "Adapting" we are good at doing what we do, Being a successful community, When inferno did hit EVE Online, ISN - Incursion Shiny Network is still a strong community, Now please go back to BTL or wherever you came from.

You make me sad.

Tip: Stop crying and maybe learn how to do your fleet comp correct and stop taking bio breaks after each site.


If you wish to discuss this on Teamspeak or have any concern that i am posting false fact's, Then let me know.

Wow you are an expert at spotting good sources o info aren't you... lol I bet here's a few other good sources you rely on in RL:
- Rush Limbaugh is a Conservative he sounds like a good source of fair & balanced news to me... or Faux News is the only news cable channel that never has a biased slant on news to prop its ratings so it is a good source for you too
or Tobacco companies would never sell a dangerous product it would kill thier client base & take away from thier profits so you believed them when they all swore that tobbaco products don't cause cancer...
LOL I bet you beleive all third hand rumors I hear on the Internet that there is no global warming....

Can't wait to see these under 12 minute sustained NCN's lol.

Only explanation I can think of is is that CCP believes the trolls. Lets see how much the killing of Incursions and the communities affects the rampant inflation over the next 2 months

kudos for good adapting instead of whining.

btw, don't waste time talking to Darth, he'll just ignore anything might have disadvantage on his interest

If you base your development decisions on the feedback of the few users that browse this forum you should be fired.

Ii think we should rename your toon to Mr Obvious. Few things need to be pointed out to you since it looks like you are talking from your brown pie hole about the current incursion running.
1> Vanguards now take longer to do then before with less Payout. some amount of risk is involved.
2> You whine and complain like 2 year old when you discover that some incursion runners develop a new strategy and Tactics
3> CCP got rid of the Legion Blitz Fleet.
4> OTAs are very dangerous i see ships get popped in there weekly. think last week was 3 ships got popped in there and thats with one group i know of

That's just a the tip of the iceberg i can keep going but i can say this much many of the incursion runners have given up on them or left the game because of 0.0 river of tears. Stay out there 0.0 care bear land and leave empire alone you got plenty of nullbears to play with

I think what really gives away that it's a troll is the fact that it's a null sec renter QQing about null sec players.

"OTAs are very dangerous i see ships get popped in there weekly" -was a rather masterful indirect troll comment though, I may have to use that myself when I'm posting on DarthNefarius one of my nameless troll alts.

Looks like the same old story with history repeating itself by the CCP DEV's: http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/16/jesters-trek-demon-suit/

" I’ve heard from more incursion runners that are just unsubbing rather than submit to that indignity. "

i like to requote what i said before regarding changes that i feel will do alot of good with some changes reference to recent changes

1) rework sizes for max pilots in a fleet

VG - 8
AS - 14
HQ - 28
MOM- 50

smaller fleet sizes = faster fleet forming. ya we like to form fleets fast

2) contesting site isk/LP should be shared according to total damage % dealt into site.

will this introduce more poorly skilled players into incursions? fact--> we are all poorly skilled once, it is up to the FC to select and form his fleet and sort out. most closed group fleets help out their own weaker skilled friends, so i do not see a problem. we need players in such runs with good play attitude rather than a AFK 10b ship. remember its a reduced fleet size.

3) with down sizing of fleet size, total sansha DPS output dealt to playerbase should decrease accordingly to ensure playability of sites.

VG - -10% sansha total dps
AS - -20% sansha total dps
HQ - -30% sansha total dps
MOM- -30% sansha total dps

this would seem like a nerf BUT ... read on ...

4) **previously suggested ---> with reduced DPS, ALL sites should introduce an extra special spawn that must be destroyed for site completion. new spawn introduced i will suggest be triggered after 2nd last site trigger is in effect. the spawn will consist of 1xsmartbomb armed sansha cruiser (SB strength = 2.5x of a T2 medium SB @ 25km radius effect going at a 8 second interval), 1xsensordampener armed frig, that can target 2 simultaneous targets to cause 500% t2 scripted sensor dampening effect @ 12s interval range of 50km, 1xremoteshieldrep armed cruiser that will effect 500% remote rep capabilities of a med T2 remote shield rep on 1 target @ 10s interval. this spawn is a unique grp and will move in a formation no further than 5km from each other.

this spawn will have the following spawn grps per sites:

VG - 1 spawn
AS - 2 spawns
HQ - 3 spawns
MOM- 4 spawns

yes the repping capability = dps test benchmark. the rep % should be tweaked according to real fleets nominal dps, the 500% i have suggested is an arbituary value it could be 1000% or 200% for all i know. **

what ccp did change ---> as we all know ccp introduced a spawn of tamas and niarjas ---> how exciting !

ok since you already did that, i like to suggest the spawn has a AI that will do boat bumping to DPS ships. ya you heard what i said, sansha ship that will bump out DPS ships. i think alot mechanics of the game is such that they come they orbit we shoot we rep ourselves, it is getting boring. since you cant arm them with smart bomb, how about boat bumping? when i say bump i mean bump off by 50km +++

5) ok they have hacker cans, i like to suggest hacker cans remain, but introduce their own combat booster/buffing cruiser hulled ship (non attacking entity) that will do the following non stacking bonuses:
VG - +150% shield HP
AS - +60% shield HP
HQ - +50% shield HP
MOM- +40% shield HP
this combat booster ship should be rendered highly untouchable with shield resistances of 90%. and EHP +500% of normal sansha spawn. it may be plausible that this unit will become prime target in mom/HQ fleets.

with the increased HP, the role of the sansha remote repping ships should now be nerfed to only rep @ 50% capacity.

6) with the increased overall EHP of sansha + extra spawns. it is only natural that the site will now take MORE time to complete than usual. and therefore it is only logical that bounties of ISK/LP increase, and by that i would mean a total increase of 70% of bounties across VG, 100% for AS sites and a 150% increase for HQ site and 200% increase for MOM site.

of course i do not agree with payout reduction by CCP.

MOM site no longer drops loot. but all MOM site pilot now recieve a tradable special insignia token that can be exchanged for special concord named items (that could be the random loot from the SC + some insane amt of LP?).

7) reconfiguration of a incursion cluster

each incursion spawn should now be as follows
VG - 99 sites (spread over 11 to 15 systems)
AS - 15 sites (spread over 5 systems)
HQ - 9 sites (spread over 3 systems)
MOM- 4 sites (spread over 2 systems)

and there is now only 1 hisec site, 1 losec, 1 nullsec. and each site can spawn over 3 adjoining constellations instead of 1.

50% of all initial spawned VG must be destoyed at least once to spawn AS sites, or wait 5days for AS auto spawn

100% of all initial spawned AS must be destoyed at least once to spawn HQ sites, or wait 7 days for HQ auto spawn

100% of all initial spawned HQ must be destoyed at least once to spawn MOM sites, or wait 9 days for MOM auto spawn. when MOM sites spawn, constellation wide all stargate, stations and VG/AS/HQ site-warpgates will be harrassed by a splash of 5-10 orkashu myelens, they do nothing but harrass with ecm. server restarts will spawn the rats if they are destroyed.

all 4 MOM sites must be destroyed to end the incursion and trigger LP payout. and MOM sites withdrawal time is set to countdown in 9 days. which means an entire incursion spawn will last maximum 18 full days

with the reduced fleet sized groupings, it is hoped to encourage more pilots to try AS/HQ sites.

the above changes is hoped to encourage, a more focused fleet activity rather than just bulldozing thru sites. overall i would say difficulty of sites is increased. while survivability of sites is also

i believe more experienced FC will have alot to say on the above ... please do :D (constructively of course)

thank you for reading (again)

Looks like the CCP DEV the OP talked about took a dump on Incursions I guess thats what you get when you hand off a fix on a retireing DEV. I hope before he goes they hand off fixing Tech moons to him too