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New dev blog: More Skin Color Options

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PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#21 - 2012-05-16 18:15:26 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
first :)


Karkur ccp is best ccp.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#22 - 2012-05-16 18:19:59 UTC
BlindFury wrote:
Quote:
...in case you didn't know, these resculpts don't stack...


I'm pretty sure they stacked when Incarna first came out, why can't this still be the case?

I'm pretty sure they didn't... or at least I don't see how that could have been possible since it's just a flag and that hasn't changed since Incursion.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2012-05-16 18:20:38 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
I don't really care about skin color what I really want to see is those new outfits you had for a while on SiSi .. they were absolutely stunning, just what a space pilot from the future would be wearing. Gief nao plix
They are not ready Smile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-05-16 18:26:01 UTC
BLUE skin ................... this is EVE not Smurfs in space. Roll

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.

CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#25 - 2012-05-16 18:27:24 UTC
ctx2007 wrote:
BLUE skin ................... this is EVE not Smurfs in space. Roll

ohhh man, have I been playing the wrong game all this time Oops where do I find the Smurf game then?

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-16 18:34:27 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurf_Rescue P

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#27 - 2012-05-16 18:39:38 UTC
Quote:
With this skin color change, we are also lifting hair-color restrictions, allowing you a greater selection, regardless of your bloodline.


Does this mean the full spectrum of punk-rock colors will be available? Green, fire-engine red, purple etc?
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2012-05-16 18:43:31 UTC
Palovana wrote:

Does this mean the full spectrum of punk-rock colors will be available? Green, fire-engine red, purple etc?

ah, no. There is a set of carefully picked hair colors, and some of them were not available for some of the bloodlines. Those restrictions are being lifted.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-05-16 18:45:59 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Kusum Fawn wrote:
Why are the colors restricted at all? I dunno if its a programming issue or what to have the entire color palate open to experimentation, but id like to have hues for hair color and pretty much everything.

Is there any specific reason why this is not so?

Also clothing, Whats with the few selected colors? is it easier to have skins for the articles of clothing as opposed to entirely new models for each piece? I dunno anything about texture mapping so i was wondering.


Our artists are VERY serious about their colors Lol, and the standards in our art department are just really high (as is evident from the amazing art in EVE). They carefully pick the colors available, in order to keep the correct style and vision so everything looks right.
The color restrictions are basically up to the art direction, which is one of the reasons EVE does looks so good Smile


erm.. the correct style and vision? perhaps we could get them to stop at spaceships and stations? cause they have made a proper mess with the clothing. (can i get my old old clothes back at least?)

why do the revisions in style remove options? that's just weird.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.

Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-05-16 18:46:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Duvida
CCP karkur wrote:
ctx2007 wrote:
BLUE skin ................... this is EVE not Smurfs in space. Roll

ohhh man, have I been playing the wrong game all this time Oops where do I find the Smurf game then?


ib4 the gnashing of purple smurf teeth. Shocked
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#31 - 2012-05-16 18:49:34 UTC
Do we have 'fake suntan brown' now ? P
Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-05-16 18:50:44 UTC
Kusum Fawn wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Kusum Fawn wrote:
Why are the colors restricted at all? I dunno if its a programming issue or what to have the entire color palate open to experimentation, but id like to have hues for hair color and pretty much everything.

Is there any specific reason why this is not so?

Also clothing, Whats with the few selected colors? is it easier to have skins for the articles of clothing as opposed to entirely new models for each piece? I dunno anything about texture mapping so i was wondering.


Our artists are VERY serious about their colors Lol, and the standards in our art department are just really high (as is evident from the amazing art in EVE). They carefully pick the colors available, in order to keep the correct style and vision so everything looks right.
The color restrictions are basically up to the art direction, which is one of the reasons EVE does looks so good Smile


erm.. the correct style and vision? perhaps we could get them to stop at spaceships and stations? cause they have made a proper mess with the clothing. (can i get my old old clothes back at least?)

why do the revisions in style remove options? that's just weird.



They need to make sure the clothes match the new station backgrounds? Smile
Arien Omnicron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-05-16 18:52:33 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Kusum Fawn wrote:
Why are the colors restricted at all? I dunno if its a programming issue or what to have the entire color palate open to experimentation, but id like to have hues for hair color and pretty much everything.

Is there any specific reason why this is not so?

Also clothing, Whats with the few selected colors? is it easier to have skins for the articles of clothing as opposed to entirely new models for each piece? I dunno anything about texture mapping so i was wondering.
Our artists are VERY serious about their colors Lol, and the standards in our art department are just really high (as is evident from the amazing art in EVE). They carefully pick the colors available, in order to keep the correct style and vision so everything looks right.
The color restrictions are basically up to the art direction, which is one of the reasons EVE does looks so good Smile


but do they have to be so strict when it comes to character color, what if i want to paint my self neon green for when the night clubs become available in future incarna update. man i want to be neon green now.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#34 - 2012-05-16 18:56:50 UTC
Shingyoku wrote:
but when can I make my character fat?


Quoting this because I know this was an option in the past.

Why was it scrapped?
Because you knew we would do bad, very bad, things with it?

If you keep to the current, must look like a today character, I think you should not avoid the obese characters.
You can already create in the modeler one of those anorexia models that think they are sexy (/me shudders) running on the catwalk around in "victoria secrets" stuff.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2012-05-16 18:57:03 UTC
Arien Omnicron wrote:
but do they have to be so strict when it comes to character color, what if i want to paint my self neon green for when the night clubs become available in future incarna update. man i want to be neon green now.
I think you answered your own question P

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Riffix
Synergistic Arbitrage
#36 - 2012-05-16 18:57:39 UTC
While I think this is nice for new players and a bit for some role-players, I honestly wish more was being done to further our use of our avatars.

I agree with many of the comments here that I would rather have more customization options. I understand the need for natural-looking colors in a creator as theoretically this is you creating the look the character was born with versus something that the character modified about themselves later.

But when do we GET to those modifications?? This is the future and it is sci-fi! The Burning Life novel covered a lot of really interesting body modifications available in this universe, when do we get THOSE?? Even if we have to pay for them, even just exotic hair colors/styles could be fun.

But more importantly, if we can't move past the postage-stamp images as the only way we see each-other then our avatars are still pretty much useless for anything besides forums.

I know many players get violent at the idea of putting ANY work into not spaceships but some things could be done with a small amount of effort with some big wins for immersion and avatar purpose.

Some suggestions:
- Making trades of contraband items impossible by any means other than face to face (datapad to datapad) interaction. I know from fanfest that you can easily simulate the corridors between captain's quarters or even just allow one person to invite another to their captain's quarters.
- Give private convos between individuals the ability to use the actual 3d avatars when conversing. You could match lip-flap to chat text or EVE Voice sounds. If you were really cool, you would add gestures. If you were really really cool, you'd add the ability for players to use a webcam to capture their movements while they talk (Logitech did this a long time ago with bundled webcam software so I know it is possible).
- Allow corp/alliance leaders to record speeches using their avatar which could then be played by their members or news or enemies.
- Create conference rooms (only need 1 room per race type) and allow corp/alliance leaders to stipulate that certain policy votes can only be made by votes of people who are present together in a room.

I'm sure other players might have some good ones as well...
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Lead, Follow, or Get the #@$!@ Out of the Way.

CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#37 - 2012-05-16 18:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Shingyoku wrote:
but when can I make my character fat?


Quoting this because I know this was an option in the past.

Why was it scrapped?
Because you knew we would do bad, very bad, things with it?

If you keep to the current, must look like a today character, I think you should not avoid the obese characters.
You can already create in the modeler one of those anorexia models that think they are sexy (/me shudders) running on the catwalk around in "victoria secrets" stuff.

It never went on TQ, it was only on Sisi and there were a lot of issues with it.
I believe you need to have a different set of animation if you have very heavy characters, and then there is asset clipping and other issues.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-05-16 19:04:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kusum Fawn
Riffix wrote:
While I think this is nice for new players and a bit for some role-players, I honestly wish more was being done to further our use of our avatars.

I agree with many of the comments here that I would rather have more customization options. I understand the need for natural-looking colors in a creator as theoretically this is you creating the look the character was born with versus something that the character modified about themselves later.

But when do we GET to those modifications?? This is the future and it is sci-fi! The Burning Life novel covered a lot of really interesting body modifications available in this universe, when do we get THOSE?? even just exotic hair colors/styles could be fun.


CCP Karkur wrote:
They carefully pick the colors available, in order to keep the correct style and vision so everything looks right


Modifications and color selection are already lore, what are you holding back for exactly?

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.

killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-05-16 19:15:33 UTC
yeah thats great when can i change the colour of my ship

:)

Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#40 - 2012-05-16 19:16:56 UTC
I'm glad to see a myriad of new colors. I still have objections related to the art direction of bloodline archetypes (skin, hair, eye color related) but as we're only a week from Inferno I'll have to let it pass.