Warfare & Tactics

Then feel free to come by my neighborhood with something shiny and lose it instead of accepting a ransom. Could've kept your stuff and we would've both made it out with no hard feelings. If I ransom you, I already know what you got and am willing to make it worth both our while. You're choice though, and you're welcome to it.

bongsmoke, I want whatever your smoking, because it apparently really alters your sense of reality.

FIrst thing, I don't have to use the Golden Rule in a game, especially in a game that is focused around PVP. When you are playing an FPS, do you do unto others as you'd want done unto you? Of course not! You shoot em in the face as many times as possible...because that's "the game"

EVE is no different in that concept. There are the creators, like the indys that build stuff for economic gain, and there are the destroyers that do it for ISK and entertainment. Without us, the market would tank. There is something called supply and demand, a creation and destruction cycle that must occur for things to be in balance. You must learn to accept this, otherwise you fail the basic essentials of Economics 101.

If someone stole/hacked/scammed the Goons out of trillions of ISK, many people would celebrate it. I'm sure you would, since you obviously object to pvp for some RL moral reason that you also infuse into a game. Once people accept that PVP, whether it's what some call griefing or your run of the mill fleet battle, is just part of this game and is to be expected...then they'll feel much better. The reason you are feeling uncomfortable about it right now is because you have emotionally invested yourself way past what is considered healthy in pixels. That's all they are. Nothing more, nothing less. My alt once lost a 1.3 bil pod once. Think I cried about it? Nope. I laughed, walked to the fridge, grabbed a beer, and continued with my play. Crap happens and I go forth expecting it will eventually and become emotionally unattached. You should do the same. Makes life so much better.

Oh, and btw - if I went to ransom you and saw the notification that you initiated a self destruct, I'd overheat everything I had and call in help if I had to. Unless your in a supercap, you aren't blowing up to anything other than my guns, bro. I'll then troll your killmail afterwards just to add insult to injury. See, that's the fun part about a game! You can be something totally different than you are IRL. Amazing, isn't it?

Good god almighty, your a wind bag like my wife...

First, you don't need my smoking stash, cause apparently your reading comprehension sucks.

Nothing against PvP, however, something against pirate extortion with still being blown to smithereens.

This game is money/time/effort.

I am not asking for your advice (with good reason), i'm hoping to help out other poor saps that don't have a full grasp on this game.

A. Dont fly what you cant afford
B. Dont use implants in low/null sec unless you can afford to lose them.
C. Dont deal with pirates, either ignore them and get blown up or
D. Buy time to self destruct so, said pirate gets nothing.

The biggest factor to me in all of this, is to never give anything to pirates, thats how they make a living, so cut that supply off.

Edit: Using T1 Ships in low/null, also be sure to insure your ship, granted for half the cost, but its better than nothing.

Umm most pirates dont care about T1 or T2 drops, they care about officer or faction mods, ransoms, but most of all....killmails.

Anyone flying expensive mods in null better have one hell of an alliance or decently big fleet.



Take that T2 cap recharger or T2 BCU. I mean thats how pirates make their living right? lol

Remove ransoms, there goes ~70% of your income(well pirates, perhaps not you)


I have also at one point jettisoned my cargo when being ganked, knowing I couldnt win, but i did blow up my cargo so said pirates didnt get it.



Oh and If your wife is insecure, well not my issue. Hope she loosens that collar around your neck.

Mine laughs at me(expecially for that remark) saying should have pointed out myself instead, since she doesnt forum post. She thinks i am the windbag.

Remember that CONCORD Pwn Laz0r that was mentioned at Fanfest? Can that be extended to the destruction of bad threads, too?

most major lowsec organizations honor ransoms because simply its good for business. While its not a rule by any means the general attitude in lowsec seems to support good old honorable ransoms

Dropped into a null gate camp a while back; they alternated between shooting and repping me. Self-destruct ended their fun, got me where I was headed much faster.

Your rule is useful 95% of the time; but there are reputable entities - generally those that have a strict Alliance/Corp policy - that will honor all offered ransoms. If you don't do your research and pay to a group that doesn't honor them you're dumb, but you're equally dumb if you pass up a reasonable ransom offer from a group with a reputation that would have honored it.

This is EVE, rules have a habit of not applying in all situations. As with everything, research and resulting knowledge is key.

Good. Fine. Made your point? Gotten enough attention? Let's move on and get to not paying our ransoms. This thread is like beating a dead horse and has been spoken about a million times.

Please explain how 'wrong' I am.

Facebook is just a social site online (a hobby for many), but look all the grief it caused, with harrassment, suicides of kids, loss of employment. You think words, internet, games are harmless? But those people that grief and cause trouble on facebook im sure are all good people irl, its just a social website after all.

You think that people shouldnt get upset if they lose something they 'worked' weeks, months, years for (regardless ingame or out of game)?

Yes im blowing it up a bit more than I should, but if you dont get it, only time will teach you, hopefully.

BTW, if you havent noticed my name, I am definately calm......and hungry. :P

I am not mad about anything, nothing happened to me to provoke this, but one of my fellow corp mates it did.

This thread exists to enlighten other players that the risks of dealing with pirates is NOT worth it.

I am not a close minded individual, so if you want to tell me my failings, where I screwed up and what I could do to fix it, lets hear it...err see it.