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Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#1 - 2012-05-16 14:35:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Maeltstome
A lot of people just use battle clinic to post fits, so this forum seems a little devoid of actual ship fittings, so i thought i'd start posting some ship fittings for newbies to try out for cheap ships to get them into PVP.

First up is the Plated rupture, a ship i've been involved with in gangs in the past. Very fun and tends to attract small time gangs or solo pirates who underestimate you... leading to nice KM's :)

Thhis fit has perfect fitting skills. Feel free to drop to smaller guns if you are having issues fitting.

[Rupture, Plated]

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin II x4
Hammerhead II x1

The gyrostabiliser can be swapped out for a Small Armor Rep or anther resist mod. The Web can be swapped for a targeting disruptor. If the rigs are too expensive, go with resist rigs and consider using the Small Armor Rep since it will be more effective when combined with higher resists.

This is a solid fit that isn't expensive (ignoring trimarks) and will serve you well in small gangs or for baiting pirates in belts. Any questions, just ask!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-05-16 14:50:47 UTC
Pro tip: copy the fit out of a fitting program like EFT or Pyfa for easy readability and for people to be easily able to check it out.

The fit itself is solid in all aspects but the small nosferatus, which are frigate anti-neuting countermeasures and utterly useless on a cruiser hull. Fit small neuts to be able to shut down frigates trying to get under your guns instead.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#3 - 2012-05-16 15:00:46 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Pro tip: copy the fit out of a fitting program like EFT or Pyfa for easy readability and for people to be easily able to check it out.

The fit itself is solid in all aspects but the small nosferatus, which are frigate anti-neuting countermeasures and utterly useless on a cruiser hull. Fit small neuts to be able to shut down frigates trying to get under your guns instead.


That was a mistype, was suppose to be small Neut. And im using PYFA and haven't worked out how to copy fits yet... i don't want to go back to EFT tbh.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-05-16 15:02:25 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Pro tip: copy the fit out of a fitting program like EFT or Pyfa for easy readability and for people to be easily able to check it out.

The fit itself is solid in all aspects but the small nosferatus, which are frigate anti-neuting countermeasures and utterly useless on a cruiser hull. Fit small neuts to be able to shut down frigates trying to get under your guns instead.


That was a mistype, was suppose to be small Neut. And im using PYFA and haven't worked out how to copy fits yet... i don't want to go back to EFT tbh.

Just hit Ctrl+C as you're looking at a fit. I use Pyfa too, and like it better than EFT.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#5 - 2012-05-16 15:05:39 UTC
Post updated.
Alara IonStorm
#6 - 2012-05-16 15:24:05 UTC
That fit requires AWU V to fit. First fit is for someone who doesn't have AWU. When you get it you will probably train it to IV so the second is for someone who has it at IV.

[Rupture, No advance weapons upgrades.]
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Patterned Stasis Web I

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Rocket Launcher II, Guristas Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Guristas Scourge Rocket

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5

You can go duel small neutralizers on this fit as well as rockets. Dealers choice.

[Rupture, Advance Weapons Upgrades !V]
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Patterned Stasis Web I

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Rocket Launcher II, Guristas Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Guristas Scourge Rocket

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5

With AWU IV you can fit 1 Small Neut or 2 Rocket Launchers. Guristas Scourge is incredibly cheap. Rockets give good anti - frigate DPS.

NOS Fits are sorta useful in gangs since the Hurricane is very popular and runs 2 medium neuts. NOS can at least keep your tackle running.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2012-05-16 15:29:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
[Vexor, Low Skill Guns]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

Excellent for pilots just starting out. With T2 Drones and T2 Frigate Blasters this ship is every bit as dangerous as a Rupture. Low fitting requirements. Rupture is The Newbie Cruiser.

[Thorax, Heavy Hitter]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Valkyrie II x5

About the same speed and tank as the Armor Rupture but more DPS. I love this ship made possible in Crucible. Love it to death. Valks v Hob v Hammers v Warriors is your choice but I like Valks. Deul Mag Stabs for an EANM is an option as well.

Overheat Micro Warp Drive, get right up close at point blank and fire.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#8 - 2012-05-16 15:50:19 UTC
IT'S RIFTER TIME!
I highly recommend:
Quote:
[Rifter, Pew Pew Boat]

150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

Damage Control I
Small Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[Empty Rig slot]

I learned to PvP on this mean thing. 1-2 mil ISK in fittings, low skill requirement, and a very versatile yet easy to fly fit to get used to PvP in. Make sure to have Thermodynamics trained, as overheating makes this fit a lot better.


A cool variation on the fit is using a microwarpdrive instead, which can work better in situations where raw speed is important (like 0.0). A friend and I used to tag team in two of these, killing expensive stuff all night and day. You give up the nosferatu, which lessens the efficiency of the armor repair, and makes you more vulnerable to neuts, but gives you a salvager to get delicious T2 salvage off of all those people you will kill (right?). Here it is:
Quote:
[Rifter, Crazy Person]

150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Salvager I

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

Damage Control I
Small Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[Empty Rig slot]



The Rifter also works well with a shield tank, particularly with an afterburner, when it becomes really nimble and agile. This is similar to the first fit I posted, except faster and higher damage, but lacking a stasis webifier (which can be quite necessary at times).

Quote:
[Rifter, Shield Pew Pew]

150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light Gallium Machine Gun, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Salvager I

Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I

Damage Control I
Gyrostabilizer I
Nanofiber Internal Structure I

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[Empty Rig slot]

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-05-16 15:57:15 UTC
Also, re: the fittings recommended by the posters above...

They are all good, but you don't really expect newbies to learn to PvP in T2-fitted cruisers, do you? The cost of doing that is phenomenal in both ISK and time investment, especially since some of the fits (like the brawling Rupture or Thorax) retain most of their ability at only a fraction of the price if you use meta modules.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Alara IonStorm
#10 - 2012-05-16 16:16:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

They are all good, but you don't really expect newbies to learn to PvP in T2-fitted cruisers, do you?

Sure I do. I absolutely do. By the time they can use those modules which they should only train after core weapon and tank skills they can afford them or their problem should be learning how to afford them.

Till then as everyone has suggested fit what you have available to you as best you can.

On your MWD Armor Rifter I prefer ANP to a repper. To much cap with an MWD and no NOS. Add low skill in and it kinda runs dry in three secs.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#11 - 2012-05-16 16:58:55 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

They are all good, but you don't really expect newbies to learn to PvP in T2-fitted cruisers, do you?

Sure I do. I absolutely do. By the time they can use those modules which they should only train after core weapon and tank skills they can afford them or their problem should be learning how to afford them.

Till then as everyone has suggested fit what you have available to you as best you can.

The problem is not affording a 30m ISK cruiser. That's easy. What's hard is affording to lose one 30m ISK cruiser after another. Your personal experience may differ, but the way I learned PvP was to throw Rifters at things either in small gangs or solo, and after the fight see what worked and what didn't work. I would sometimes lose several Rifters in one day, and be able to get the money to replace them all in just an hour of 0.0 ratting in my crappy T1-fit Hurricane.

Doing the same with cruisers worth 30x more requires the newbies to either do a lot of grinding for money (which is plain ol' boring), or to be extremely stingy about what they will engage, to avoid losing their ship too often (which, while technically good tactics, doesn't teach PvP mechanics or give significant experience).
Alara IonStorm wrote:
On your MWD Armor Rifter I prefer ANP to a repper. To much cap with an MWD and no NOS. Add low skill in and it kinda runs dry in three secs.

Yeah, for hisec/lowsec fights an ANP is probably better. I used it for going nuts in 0.0, so the repper was useful for getting myself back to full strength between fights (the ones I survived).

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Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-16 17:17:41 UTC
That Rupture fit is superior to just about any T1 cruiser. Good work.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#13 - 2012-05-16 17:27:42 UTC
I'm gonna make a post on the second best frigate in the game (the best being the rifter) - the punisher. I'll knock up my build, ive went 3v1 in a punisher before and been brought down only after getting 2 kills, including 1 interceptor.

Not bad for a t1 frig!

Btw the rifter build mentioned above, 200 plate, DC, SAR and an MWD is exactly how i fly my rifter.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#14 - 2012-05-16 17:35:51 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
I'm gonna make a post on the second best frigate in the game (the best being the rifter) - the punisher. I'll knock up my build, ive went 3v1 in a punisher before and been brought down only after getting 2 kills, including 1 interceptor.

Not bad for a t1 frig!

Btw the rifter build mentioned above, 200 plate, DC, SAR and an MWD is exactly how i fly my rifter.

Bah, Punisher is only 2nd place because Rifter and Merlin are tied for 1st Blink. My Merlin will beat your Punisher anyday (ed: yeah, lasers and all).

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#15 - 2012-05-17 13:12:52 UTC
A surprisingly popular topic. I have a bunch of less general fits i may stat posting. An interesting destroyer fit for gangs who want to bring down big targets. May post some of these later :)
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#16 - 2012-05-18 10:12:19 UTC
Plated ruppie - best ruppie :)

I tried shield, kiting ruppie a few times but for me it is too complicated keeping at range and not let your pray break out of point range - I'm not sophisticated enough for that kind of pvp. With armor fit I just throw that brick at target and from now on it is just a pure slugfest, fight I really enjoy even when it ends up with my lossmail. Basically I fly them same way I fly my rifters which is great :)

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-05-18 11:11:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
If you want a plated brawler id use this...

[Typhoon, Ruppies Bigger Brother]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-Explosive Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Ogre II x5

Catch a BC with this and you face goes... StraightWhat?SmileBig smileLolTwisted...Pirate

edit: use faction torps! no idea why its shows rage Straight

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