EVE General Discussion

AB on a battlecruiser? rgr

This change is badly needed.

I've lost count how many times I've been in a fight where a Raven was sitting 100KM away, firing cruise missiles at me totally destroying my tank, even though it can't web me at that range.

The same goes for light missiles. The Kestrel is overused in PvP due to it's massive missile offence.

Don't even get me started on torps. I've lost so many of my ships to torp Ravens that this counter would help stop.

Missiles are over-powered and need more nerfs.

There is no need to change the name, as missiles do indeed track their target. They just use a different mechanic, which is irrelevant to the name.

If you'll notice, the thread is about the fact that the door should now also be open to have tracking computers and such positively affect your missiles.

bahahhahahahahahahahahahahahha

Ohahhahahahahahaha

Yeah, pretty much.

While we're at it, can tracking disruptors disrupt drones also? Those nasty ishtars give my disruptor zealot a headache...

They do disrupt drones, you just need 5 disruptors.

I agree that tracking computers should affect missiles. It's only fair and I'm sure ccp already have this planned. It's madness otherwise...

Well depends on the IRL Missiles function, Anti Air and intercept missiles mostly feature the shredder rods, Metal rods with hypertensioned coils around them so when they detonate the coils uncompressed which then shred the rods into tiney little peices in all sorts of directions. The frag the entire area in an attempt to shred or FOD (forgien object damage) engines which would mission kill any bird in the sky. None the less having one of these explode outside your airplane is much more peferrable than having one explode inside your airplane.

Most other missiles designed to hit stationaries or larger harder targets have penetrators instead so they must have a direct hit to do most of thier damage. If you can get the missile confused just enough to destroy its penetration profile or even miss the target entirely that missile gets wasted. This has always been the more effective methood of missile protection even if it involves going into the missile itself and hacking its targeting profile causing it to erronously splash early or throw in the wrong altitude. Throwing a missile to hit another missile or throwing alot of bullets to shoot down a missile has always been rather ineffective alot of the times. The US proved it, the russians overproved it, and Im pertty sure there are others who proved it the CWIS Guns are an easily defeated system considering the missiles getting shot at it are typically much more 'intelligent' than motar rounds the perferrable target of the CWIS Guns.

Which is why there is now new research to get the new packfires out which sadly work just like eve online's defender missiles.

Another thing eve online has that currently doesnt exist IRL en mass is explosion profiling. Missile reocnizes target and angle its going to be hitting at and changes the warhead explosion profile to maximise the damage, thus guided missiles which have less warhead and more fuel for long range also has more room for a bigger computer to manage that warhead. Hence precision skills working on it unlike our 'unguided' misssiles which have nothing but warhead and short fuel tank and it probably relies on the ship for target delivery only. Closest thing we have is the small diameter bomb which only has 3 explosion profiles that have to be preselected before dropping it.

Pleae forgive any generalization I used to work around this stuff and had to find public sources to ensure its okay to repost for public consumption.

Of course, there wouldn't be a need for TDs to affect missiles if there was already a working defensive module against missiles.

But there isn't, and CCP clearly think that this change is easier to implement than fixing Defenders..

Not torps ;)

I've been told that missiles are low but reliable DPS. Now minus reliable, all thats left is low DPS. So better give up on the whole Caldari missile path and start from scratch with some different race that can do PVP in the end?

Rules changing into the opposite on a monthly base really doesn't help getting started with this game.