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ccp got this wrong or did I?
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bearskill
APC Technologies
#1 - 2012-04-27 06:44:01 UTC
Remember when ccp 1st messed around with the loot drops, the best named MWD's price crashed. Now we can see every best named version of almost every item crash due to it being dropped too often.

So this was done with the idea of making the items that have a bpo now only available to those who manufacture, great except one thing, the item with the bpo has the poorest stats!!!!!! who's going to buy them when the best items are going to become so common they will cost the same. Brilliant idea.

keep watching the market, gotta go, got to sell off my stuff while its worth something :)
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-27 06:47:06 UTC
Did they adjust the drop rates of Meta1+ items? I didn't think they did, it's just that the Meta 0 stuff isn't dropping any longer.

Personally I never understood why you would ever use a basic item when killing rats gets you better stuff for free, but maybe there's some odd reason behind it.

I would like to see crafting get an overhaul in EVE though. Maybe add critical successes on those items, or something.
Corbin Blair
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-27 06:47:23 UTC
bearskill wrote:
Remember when ccp 1st messed around with the loot drops, the best named MWD's price crashed. Now we can see every best named version of almost every item crash due to it being dropped too often.

So this was done with the idea of making the items that have a bpo now only available to those who manufacture, great except one thing, the item with the bpo has the poorest stats!!!!!! who's going to buy them when the best items are going to become so common they will cost the same. Brilliant idea.

keep watching the market, gotta go, got to sell off my stuff while its worth something :)

I haven't done any PvE since the patch, but why would removing things from the loot table make any difference to how often named stuff drops? If it does they've done something extremely wrong in their programming.
bearskill
APC Technologies
#4 - 2012-04-27 06:50:04 UTC
the amount of items dropped by rats has not changed, just that the meta 0 basics are not there so yeah the meta 1+ items are dropping more frequent, i'm trading atm and the order value of some items is dropping due to increased availability.
bearskill
APC Technologies
#5 - 2012-04-27 06:53:01 UTC
Corbin Blair wrote:
bearskill wrote:
Remember when ccp 1st messed around with the loot drops, the best named MWD's price crashed. Now we can see every best named version of almost every item crash due to it being dropped too often.

So this was done with the idea of making the items that have a bpo now only available to those who manufacture, great except one thing, the item with the bpo has the poorest stats!!!!!! who's going to buy them when the best items are going to become so common they will cost the same. Brilliant idea.

keep watching the market, gotta go, got to sell off my stuff while its worth something :)

I haven't done any PvE since the patch, but why would removing things from the loot table make any difference to how often named stuff drops? If it does they've done something extremely wrong in their programming.


They dont lower the amount of items dropped by a rat, For example a BC rat willl still drop 5 items roughly, but now it is all named and yes the chances have increased of hitting the highest t1 meta item, i trade regular and can see it happening now :)
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-27 06:53:07 UTC
bearskill wrote:
the amount of items dropped by rats has not changed, just that the meta 0 basics are not there so yeah the meta 1+ items are dropping more frequent, i'm trading atm and the order value of some items is dropping due to increased availability.


I believe you should re-read the patch notes. The Meta 0 basics are dropping as scrap metal instead of items. They did not replace the Meta 0 items with Meta 1+ equivs. It's just that the Meta 1+s now stand out a lot more.
bearskill
APC Technologies
#7 - 2012-04-27 06:56:07 UTC
Xython wrote:
bearskill wrote:
the amount of items dropped by rats has not changed, just that the meta 0 basics are not there so yeah the meta 1+ items are dropping more frequent, i'm trading atm and the order value of some items is dropping due to increased availability.


I believe you should re-read the patch notes. The Meta 0 basics are dropping as scrap metal instead of items. They did not replace the Meta 0 items with Meta 1+ equivs. It's just that the Meta 1+s now stand out a lot more.


Ok i dont doubt that was what supposed to happen, i'm just noticing the market effects of the best named t1 items atm, some seem to be moving down fast.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#8 - 2012-04-27 06:56:54 UTC
Eventually I see them removing all meta 1-4 items from NPCs and instead they drop parts for manufactures to make the meta items like a storyline bpc made from new basic invention in the scheduled crafting expansion after the harvesting expansion this winter.

Then reprocessing will be used to simply keep modules from being sold for less than raw materials and basic trit scrap metal.
Will keep mission runners from "mining" higher grade ores from weapon drops.
bearskill
APC Technologies
#9 - 2012-04-27 07:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: bearskill
just seems crazy with whats going on atm in the market, my absolution is cheaper to fly thatnmy battleship now :)
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-27 08:19:23 UTC
Xython wrote:
I believe you should re-read the patch notes. The Meta 0 basics are dropping as scrap metal instead of items. They did not replace the Meta 0 items with Meta 1+ equivs. It's just that the Meta 1+s now stand out a lot more.

This.

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Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#11 - 2012-04-27 08:45:56 UTC
bearskill wrote:
Now we can see every best named version of almost every item crash due to it being dropped too often.

WTB cheap Meta 4 medium pulse lasers

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

     _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}
bearskill
APC Technologies
#12 - 2012-05-11 11:37:35 UTC
hate to say I told you so, but i told you so, Lol
Obnoxious Fly
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-05-11 14:33:39 UTC
You probably looking at the items that are dropping prices in anticipation to the new modules coming up in Inferno.
Also now that loot is much lower volume is easier to select what gets re-processed and what gets sell orders.
EVE is a complex system.
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#14 - 2012-05-11 15:34:59 UTC
As far as I know T1 items will be built in fairly decent quantity in order to be used in T2 production. This gives a reason for T1 BPOS to exist outside of being used for invention.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-05-11 16:16:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Karsa Egivand
Pretty sure the drop-rates for meta 4- did not change.

I suspect a combination of:

1) Many incursion runners going back to running missions.
2) With less meta-zero crap clogging cargo-bays and hangars... more meta 3/4 items are actually looted and sold instead of left on the field or reprocessed along with the other crap.
3) Some ppl who were speculating on a change in the loot tables dumping their stockpiles because it didnt happen.
4) The rumours about a change causing people to somewhat panic (even with their being no change in the drop rate).

With no. 1 making the biggest impact.
Kisumii
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#16 - 2012-05-11 17:05:00 UTC
I have noticed alot more meta4 dropping coincidence or not.
Nemeron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-05-16 08:39:06 UTC
well whatever the reason, trade value of certain items like medium unstable power fluctuator and internal force field arrays andd many more high meta level items have completely crashed, made a killing selling off too people who have not noticed in quieter regions who have not adjusted their orders :)
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#18 - 2012-05-16 09:16:39 UTC
This is the new CCP.

They're not trying to ruin the game, they're trying to ruin YOUR game.
Misanthra
Alternative Enterprises
#19 - 2012-05-16 09:20:32 UTC
CCP made many incursion runners cry and take their ball home by nerfing the isk printing press events, they wnet back to mission running and are flooding markets and isk warring.

Some items got soo high no one bought in droves anymore. Buyers learned to work around it. I used to love named sheild extenders. Till they got stupid priced. I trained shield upgrade 5. (think the skill, long day at work, correct if needed) . Then I could run t2 fit mse frigs saving decent amounts of isk since best named MSE prices got stupid for a while.