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New module BPCs will drop from exploration sites
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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-05-15 05:58:41 UTC
So, exploration sites will be dropping some of the new modules' BPCs.

"CCP SoniClover" wrote:

  • Armor Adaptive Hardener I - Low slot. Armor Hardener that adjusts its resistance based on the damage received. Only one can be fitted. Just the tech I version now, but others will follow if this turns out well.

  • Small/Medium/Large/X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster I. Mid slot. A shield booster that gives a good boost, but has a very high capacitor need. Can use Cap Boosters as charge to negate the severe capacitor need. Only tech I version for now.

  • MagSheath Target Breaker I - Mid slot. A module that has a chance of breaking the lock of ships targeting you, the chance increases the more ships target you at one time. Also breaks your locks. Reduces scan resolution significantly as a downside. Only one can be fitted at a time and the can not be fitted to capital ships.

For those new modules that won't be seeded [the three above], they will not have any BPOs. Instead, BPCs of them drop as loot in profession sites in normal space and as commander & officer loot. These BPCs have between 3 and 50 runs, depending on difficulty of site/enemy. The sites in question are the pirate faction archaeology and hacking sites.

Source: War, Modules & Super Friends" DevBlog

How do you feel about this?

Should they have all been BPO only?
Do you think this is a nice buff to Radar and/or Mag sites?
Should they have gone to Rogue Drones/Sleepers instead?
Should the T1 versions have been available via BPO and only faction/deadspace versions available from exploration?
Dinger
Task Force Delta-14
#2 - 2012-05-15 06:31:11 UTC
St Mio wrote:
So, exploration sites will be dropping some of the new modules' BPCs.

How do you feel about this?

Should they have all been BPO only?
Do you think this is a nice buff to Radar and/or Mag sites?
Should they have gone to Rogue Drones/Sleepers instead?
Should the T1 versions have been available via BPO and only faction/deadspace versions available from exploration?


1+4: I don't mind this implementation in the early stages to give them some kind of uniqueness and value for the first few weeks/months, as long as at some point BPOs for the T1 version are released, if applicable T2 inventable and Faction/DS from whatever source mechanic is deemed suitable
2.Very nice, Radars didn't really need it as they already have invention parts (datacores/decryptors/interface parts/BPCs) but it will make high sec mags worth running now.
3. No, such a distribution would see drone residents or already well compensated W-space getting the vast majority of the goodies and everyone else squabbling over the few scraps that made their way to Jita, a random distribution allows everyone a bite at the cherry.
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#3 - 2012-05-15 09:26:34 UTC
St Mio wrote:

Should they have all been BPO only?


No

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Do you think this is a nice buff to Radar and/or Mag sites?


Yes. But as per usual, its poorly done.

Quote:
Should they have gone to Rogue Drones/Sleepers instead?


Not sleepers. I don't know why you included this as an option. You're smarter than that.

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Should the T1 versions have been available via BPO and only faction/deadspace versions available from exploration?


Yes. This is how it should have been implemented. T1 via BPO. Faction/deadspace variants from drone exploration/commanders.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2012-05-15 09:53:07 UTC
They should only drop outside hisec, or from frigate plexes in hisec.

Making them rogue drone only would have made a lot of sense, but I'm afraid nothing in Inferno made much sense in the end.

Yes, I am disappoint. For the first time over an expansion.

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L0rdF1end
Tactical Grace.
Vanguard.
#5 - 2012-05-15 10:28:45 UTC
I agree, its an expansion of nothing.
Not one feature entertains my play style, agreed it is giving some love to a lot of areas that needed love but only time will tell if it was the correct love.

I'm holding out for the winter expansion, hopefully that brings a little more excitement.

Regarding the questions from the Op. I think this is a good way, rareity is always good and I might consider actually doing Radars now at least for a while and if there isn't anything better to do.
Hans Tesla
RigWerks Incorporated
#6 - 2012-05-15 18:36:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Hans Tesla
Should they have all been BPO only?
- Sort of, see last comment

Do you think this is a nice buff to Radar and/or Mag sites?
- Radar really doesn't need it. But I'm really pleased they are finally buffing up the Mag sites. Heck, I would have been pleased if mag sites would have started to drop limited run faction ammo BPCs...

Should they have gone to Rogue Drones/Sleepers instead?
- Mag sites and Rogue Drones seem like they would have been a good idea. Currently two areas that are only serviced by the most dedicated, unlike WH rats and radar sites.

Should the T1 versions have been available via BPO and only faction/deadspace versions available from exploration?
- That's how it really should have worked. T1 anything should probably be available via BPO if it can be manufactured in the first place.

Head Rigger In Charge
xVx dreadnaught
modro
The Initiative.
#7 - 2012-05-15 19:58:12 UTC  |  Edited by: xVx dreadnaught
Should they have all been BPO only?

I would prefer limited run BPC's. I would alter that also for most if not all loot tables. Instead of bulky items, BPC's for the items. The bill of materials would be less, just like when you reprocess a higher meta item you don't get as many materials from it.

Do you think this is a nice buff to Radar and/or Mag sites?

Yes, I see little use for Mag sites in Hi-Sec as they currently are. This would bring some use for them.

Should they have gone to Rogue Drones/Sleepers instead?

Rogue Drones, maybe... Sleepers, No. You already get sufficient payment from Sleepers as they are

Should the T1 versions have been available via BPO and only faction/deadspace versions available from exploration?

I would have T1 BPO's be the lowest chance of drop, with limited run BPC's of meta 0 all the way to meta 4 varying in runs and the NPC's that would drop them. So Hi-sec would mostly get 1-5 run copies of the T1 version. Low-sec 1-5 run copies of Meta1-4 versions and up to 20 run copies of T1. Null-sec dropping up to 20 run copies of the meta 1-4 versions and T1 BPO's
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#8 - 2012-05-16 00:45:58 UTC
I'm really... perplexed, I suppose... by this decision. It isn't bad per se, but it isn't per se good either. If the drop rate is high enough, it will have absolutely no effect on the final market and bring in paltry income for explorers, providing basically one more "meh, I'll take it" item to haul out of mags/radars. If the drop rate is low enough, they'll be nice and precious, but their use is going to be limited. And frankly, I don't think there's such as thing as "just right" drop rates on something like this.

Time will tell I guess.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-05-16 06:06:53 UTC  |  Edited by: St Mio
"Quoting is" wrote:
"hard :(" wrote:
Should they have gone to Rogue Drones/Sleepers instead?


Not sleepers. I don't know why you included this as an option. You're smarter than that.

Someone in the official feedback thread suggested that one :P
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#10 - 2012-05-16 06:18:37 UTC
Learn how to quote Mio.
Nlex
Domini Canium
#11 - 2012-05-16 06:36:35 UTC
On one hand, a chance to find something cool and unusual in magnetometric site is always nice.
On the other, it breaks the existing model of all T1 M0 items being freely available through BPO. It also means that should CCP bring in T2 version of those modules, they will be even more expensive than T2 rigs, relative to T1 version.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-16 06:44:45 UTC
He (CCP Ytt) said he's going to change the BPC-only ones to T1 Meta 1 if I recall correctly