EVE General Discussion

I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.

Does it say in that word that I have to play YOUR game ? can I play the way I like it ? I honestly tought that since the game does have 3 type of space it also implyed that you could play many different playstyle...

I try it again, this time in mirror, "X-O-B-D-N-A-S".

As opposed to shooting at pretend territorial claim Units/ POS Towers before them?

I think that the point he is trying ot make is that while they have every right to tell you that you are playing the game wrong, you have every right to tell them the same thing.

Quitting because someone voices their opinion, while they continue enjoying playing the way they prefer, only tells them that they were right all along.

OP do you realise that essentially this thread is massively hypocritical?

If they want to mess up your game, they can and that's their play style.
Are you saying they shouldn't be able to play the way they want to?

You could try engaging your brain and adapting your play style such that it benefits you rather than other people, much in the same way that when I PVP I fit my ships correctly and use appropriate strategy rather than, i dunno, sitting around and mindlessly waiting to be beaten.

Eve is a sandbox, specifically it is a conflict driven MMO with a player driven market that lacks formal, structured objectives and content in favour of player created content and personal goals.

This game design philosophy is incompatible with certain styles of play, any attempt to mix the two inevitably leads to mudflation, stagnation and the death of player driven content in favor of the more readily available instant gratification content.

To keep this post short, I will spell it out for you: allowing the emergence of risk averse, artificial dungeon raiding playstyles will result in a short burst of popularity, before eventually killing Eve in a sea of mudflation and a lack of interesting content.

Just curious, which sandbox did you play in when you were a kid that the other kids got to hit you on the head with their shovels? Not saying it might not have been fun for the shovel-wielders, but it would make for a crappy sandbox.

Perhaps a new metaphor would be in order.

PvP doesn't just mean :gudfites:, this is a sandbox MMO not counter strike.

That means PvE is intertwined with PvP of all kinds, whether it is avoiding combat to gather resources like deadspace gear and melted nanoribbons or even if its just transporting goods through dangerous space to sell at a marked up price.

Eve is not about themepark MMO segregation of PvE and PvP, it is not about going on raids and turning off your PvP flag. There are plenty of real themepark MMO games that cater to this style of play much better, and quite simply if you ever got your way, and CCP tried going in that direction with game design, then players would flock to them.

CCP should play to their strengths with Eve, it is one of the best sandbox MMOs in the world, making it cater to the themepark MMO crowd at the risk of destroying everything they have built so far is simply bad business sense.

I have spent 8 years mining actual tears. And they are delicious.