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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#81 - 2012-05-15 13:33:42 UTC
The problem with Goons is that due to the game's sandbox mechanics, there is no intrinsic end-game, and so the Goons invented one.

Unfortunately the end game they decided on was to bring around the end of the actual game, in other words, to break out of the sandbox and to force others out too.

While it's certainly a valid goal, I don't believe it is in the best interests of the actual game.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#82 - 2012-05-15 13:54:27 UTC
The only way a large group of whining hi-sec PVE players would lower their paranoia shield to attack a group, like the Goons, would be if there was a magic mid-slot wand-like device that converted the enemy ships in to asteroids so they could be mined. (Can't use a high or low slot, that would have a negative impact on their yield, but they never really use their mid slots)

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Lord Salty
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
Moist.
#83 - 2012-05-15 14:09:02 UTC
To be honest, i found this entire thread extremely funny.
I think it would be great to see all of high sec and CFC's null enemies combined into a single attack force, if only to be apart of the epic and massive battle that follows.
But i also agree with others that the Goons are too much fun to get rid of. I had an absolute blast in jita-geddon, kill mail whoring on all i could Big smile
the other downside is that even if a single attack force formed they would need to take out tech moons to slow income. this would then bring about the entire OTEC which =
titan blobs from PL
super carrier blobs from PL
Maelstrom blobs from CFC
Drake blobs from CFC
Even larger blobs of logi ships and triaged carriers and pantheon carriers from every alliance in OTEC.
I also want to bet that there will be a shield repping rorqual, because why not.

Their drakes would literally blot out the sun of that system, if the maelstroms werent already doing it. Then the carriers will blot out the maelstroms on our overviews. Then the titans and supercarriers will blot out our screen and we wont see anything. then TIDI would be at 110% effectiveness and the game would simply stop.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#84 - 2012-05-15 14:21:46 UTC
Hubris is a force of nature.

This entire thread is full of nature.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#85 - 2012-05-15 14:33:32 UTC
Shian Yang wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Forming a fleet?


Greetings capsuleer Fera,

This may be part of it, yes. But I've heard rumours there are non-capsuleer pilots and planet dwellers that keep a recalcitrant, imperious animal known as a "cat". From what I understand, forming a cohesive group is much akin to herding these beasts. Then there are the logistics, the strategic planning and the work involved in bringing about the downfall of the largest Empire in New Eden ...

It is not as simple as "Ask the Cosmonauts to do it for me".

Regards,

Shian Yang



I've just had a epiphany, all cats are trolls used to playing in a sandbox, ergo if cats evolved thumbs they would be goons.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Bart Wart
#86 - 2012-05-15 14:34:22 UTC
Forum games are fun and all (who doesn't like a good forum game, after all?). But let's not kid ourselves.

The goons, and the CFC in general, could probably take over all of Null sec if they wanted, given enough time and planning. They have more money and resources than God herself, superior organization, ability to recruit and retain large numbers of cannon fodder, and a mastery of the game mechanics.

The only thing that will kill the CFC are themselves, through various means, or some uber-uber meta gaming. Empty bromides on an Internet forum, while somewhat amusing, aren't going to do a damn thing.

Think about it: what is there left to do after you've proven that you can take on all comers like the CFC have? You raise your ambitions. What could be more ambitious than taking over New Eden? Turn high-sec and low-sec into ghetto while CFC rule null.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#87 - 2012-05-15 14:34:50 UTC
I have heard of people getting banned for engaging in combat in Jita. since Goons did it, it is now legal to smartbomb the undock of Jita 4-4.

IT IS. (did it the other day)

CCP will not ban you for undocking in scorp after scorp and smartbombing the undock. it is the only conclusion after the burning of jita by Goons. its not like the Goons paid/are supported by CCP and ban others that do what they do.

it is now officially encouraged to do this type of thing. CCP likes it when you this. Everyone can now burn jita.

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2012-05-15 14:56:05 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either.

Sorry, the SC already destroyed the DRF + Team Tech dual coalition.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-05-15 15:00:48 UTC
Selinate wrote:
We need to do something about the goons. They've plagued Eve for too long now. My proposal: All english speaking players must team up with the Russians to take them down.

Think about it. It wasn't long ago that the DRF beat the Northern Coalition. They can do the exact same thing to the goons and they don't like them either. Let's pool our isk together so we can pay the translators and work together to bring the goons down.

Down with the Mittani.

problem is: noone outside high-sec is bothering with goons Big smile
yea they are fight sometime but i can't say they are too different from any null-sec alliance.

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Selene Theron
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2012-05-15 15:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Selene Theron
Goons are not the problem. If Goons didnt exsist the same minded people would fly under another banner and history will repeat itself.

Before it was BoB, now it is Goons. Eventually Goons will fall and another group will do the same things.

I dont care tbh.
Enuen Ravenseye
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2012-05-15 15:10:12 UTC
Lord Salty wrote:
I think it would be great to see all of high sec and CFC's null enemies combined into a single attack force, if only to be apart of the epic and massive battle that follows.


I don't think anyone could argue that, as "live events" go, a final battle between Goons/CFC and the combined forces of the hisec haters would be one of the grandest highlights of online gaming ever.

To paraphrase Star Trek: "It would be ... glorious."

CFC versus GHU (Goon Haters United), on pay-per-view. We should make this **** happen.
Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2012-05-15 17:03:34 UTC
Goons will implode sooner or later. Someone will walk off with the biggest haul ever or some IRL incident will get them in trouble and they will be a part of EVE history like BoB and others.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2012-05-15 17:05:14 UTC
I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*

still it won't happen, not worth the effort, goons don't do anything to 90% of the highsec population anyways... are people still mad at burn jita? i thought it was fun, hope it happens next year as well.
Sister Rhode
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#94 - 2012-05-15 17:06:35 UTC
Just be patient, I'm sure we will forget to pay our sov bills sometime soon.
Ohanka
#95 - 2012-05-15 17:09:21 UTC
But then we'll have Russian RMT Bots everywhere

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Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-05-15 17:16:59 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*


ive unironically seen triple tanks when scanning people in hisec.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#97 - 2012-05-15 17:20:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ohanka wrote:
But then we'll have Russian RMT Bots everywhere


If the Goon haters & CFC/CCP conspiracy theorys are to be believed the only thing that will have changed will be the owners of the bots.

/me dons Tinfoil Headwear™

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The Initiative.
#98 - 2012-05-15 17:23:44 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*


It's hard to deny that a shockingly high proportion don't

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2012-05-15 17:29:17 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
I love how goons think high sec players don't know how to tank ships *eye roll*.

look we've all seen the hulkageddon killmails, you aren't convincing anyone that they do
Pres Crendraven
#100 - 2012-05-15 17:33:03 UTC
I saw a goon once.

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