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Eve-Profit: what could happened?
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-14 12:35:49 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
just started to use this software. Looks very interesting.

And i got into wandering: what could happened at the point of time between May 11 05:10 and May 11 15:00? Eve-Profit started to show my sells as loss. Selling price didn't change, i checked markets: no changes....

screenshot

Any ideas?
One of possible things i can imagine is got Broker relations to 4 at some point (maybe it was that moment). But i still son't see any reasons why profit became loss?

Note: screenshot shows buy/sell transactions for 1 item. Buy transaction was shown to let you see i (re)bought this item for lower price than i use for sell.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Kouryusei
Keizai Inc
#2 - 2012-05-14 12:49:42 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
just started to use this software. Looks very interesting.

And i got into wandering: what could happened at the point of time between May 11 05:10 and May 11 15:00? Eve-Profit started to show my sells as loss. Selling price didn't change, i checked markets: no changes....

screenshot

Any ideas?
One of possible things i can imagine is got Broker relations to 4 at some point (maybe it was that moment). But i still son't see any reasons why profit became loss?

Note: screenshot shows buy/sell transactions for 1 item. Buy transaction was shown to let you see i (re)bought this item for lower price than i use for sell.


Odd, can you drop me an email at hello@bitterseatrading.com (we recently took over) and I'll check in to this for you.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-05-14 12:54:01 UTC
will do.

Thanks

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Armed Maniac
Noticeably Insane Miners' League
#4 - 2012-05-14 13:11:23 UTC
If there is no corresponding Buy order for the item you sold it will show the transaction tax as an amount loss. (1.5% which is your broker fee/sales tax)

Were you selling something you picked up from another character, or made yourself?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-05-14 13:48:30 UTC
Armed Maniac wrote:
If there is no corresponding Buy order for the item you sold it will show the transaction tax as an amount loss. (1.5% which is your broker fee/sales tax)

Were you selling something you picked up from another character, or made yourself?

i bought this item with other character. Imported both of them into 1 character so info should be present.
However will check.

Thanks

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Gregory Brunswick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-14 13:57:37 UTC
Eve profit forks on a fifo basis rather than tagging each item at what the cost was to purchase it as stated above. May have something to do with it.
Armed Maniac
Noticeably Insane Miners' League
#7 - 2012-05-14 14:11:45 UTC
Gregory Brunswick wrote:
Eve profit forks on a fifo basis rather than tagging each item at what the cost was to purchase it as stated above. May have something to do with it.


If you sell something that you didn't buy, it will show the taxes as the loss percent. This happened everytime I sold mission loot or minerals that I didn't have a corresponding buy order for. This also happened when I sold more of an item than I bought on the market.

Since all of his entries have the same % loss, and that % loss corresponds to what taxes could be taken out, I think my original diagnoses is correct.
(if eve-profit is broken and not matching orders, that is another thing enitrely. My eve-profit seems to be working, so that probably isn't the case.)
Gregory Brunswick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-14 19:21:37 UTC
FIFO is an accounting term meaning first in first out. It is a method of assigning cost to inventory sold and it is the method that eve profit seems to operate under. You can test it yourself. Purchase two of the same items and differing costs, first one cheaper and the other one for more isk. Then sell in reverse order selling the one bought for more isk first. Eve profit is goin to show the profit you made from selling the the first item you bought at the cheaper price since you bought it first.

It doesn't really matter though since they are the sae exact item but I was stating it to build on your post and show how profits on eve profit can be skewed.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-15 08:58:30 UTC
well. i checked my accounts transaction history. I dunno how did it happen but i can't find where and when i bought that item. And Eve-Profit shows that i sold more items than bought. My API reader shows the same.

So the idea about "standard tax" looks real.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Armed Maniac
Noticeably Insane Miners' League
#10 - 2012-05-15 17:29:54 UTC
Gregory Brunswick wrote:
FIFO is an accounting term meaning first in first out. It is a method of assigning cost to inventory sold and it is the method that eve profit seems to operate under. You can test it yourself. Purchase two of the same items and differing costs, first one cheaper and the other one for more isk. Then sell in reverse order selling the one bought for more isk first. Eve profit is goin to show the profit you made from selling the the first item you bought at the cheaper price since you bought it first.

It doesn't really matter though since they are the sae exact item but I was stating it to build on your post and show how profits on eve profit can be skewed.


Without knowning the terminology I had gathered that just from using the website. Thanks for the definition though.

March rabbit wrote:
well. i checked my accounts transaction history. I dunno how did it happen but i can't find where and when i bought that item. And Eve-Profit shows that i sold more items than bought. My API reader shows the same.

So the idea about "standard tax" looks real.


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