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Move to a new system?

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Jauffre Perkele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-13 01:46:05 UTC
So I just started playing last week, and I've basically just been mining in and around my starting system (Clellion, 0.8). All of my items and ships are in the Centre for Advanced Studies station, and I'm starting to want to move to another system, in lower sec with fewer people, so every asteroid belt I go to isn't mined out and I can mine some better minerals using anchoring and secure containers. So how do I find a decent system? Also how do I move all of my ships there? At the moment I'm just looking to do some mining and production, and I'll start PVPing when I get some skills up.

Sorry if these are stupid questions.
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Blackwater International
#2 - 2012-05-13 02:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ilnaurk Sithdogron
What kind of ships are you trying to move? If they're not very big, grab an Industrial, package them up, and stick them in the cargo hold. You should probably be able to make it in just a few trips, depending on how many ships you have.

If you're looking for an empty area to mine, check the population levels on the star map. However, be careful while mining until the end of May. It's Hulkageddon season and gankers (people who will try to blow your mining ship up at the cost of their own) may be out in force. You probably won't have to worry about it if you're just in a frigate though - the ship isn't worth enough ISK to justify a gank attempt.

Also, I see you've joined a corporation. Ask if they've got a station that serves as their headquarters, and maybe move there. It will make it easier to get in touch with corpmates, who can help you out in quite a few ways if they're nice people. Also, messing around with friends is fun! :)

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Alexandra Lingwa
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
#3 - 2012-05-13 02:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexandra Lingwa
Ilnaurk Sithdogron wrote:
What kind of ships are you trying to move? If they're not very big, grab an Industrial, package them up, and stick them in the cargo hold. You should probably be able to make it in just a few trips, depending on how many ships you have.

If you're looking for an empty area to mine, check the population levels on the star map. However, be careful while mining until the end of May. It's Hulkageddon season and gankers (people who will try to blow your mining ship up at the cost of their own) may be out in force. You probably won't have to worry about it if you're just in a frigate though - the ship isn't worth enough ISK to justify a gank attempt.

Also, I see you've joined a corporation. Ask if they've got a station that serves as their headquarters, and maybe move there. It will make it easier to get in touch with corpmates, who can help you out in quite a few ways if they're nice people. Also, messing around with friends is fun! :)


This is all true, but I just wanted to also note that if you can't fit the ships in one ship it is perfectly fine to fly a shuttle or pod back as you drop each ship off in its new destination.

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Jauffre Perkele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-13 03:01:28 UTC
Thanks! I have two Navitas', an Iteron Mark I (my hauler), an Atron, an Imicus, a Tristan, a Velator, and a Carcal and Moa which I got in the 9th anniversary free stuff (however I don't have the skill to fly them yet). So do I just repackage them and stick them in my Iteron? Some people in my corp suggested some systems for me.
malaire
#5 - 2012-05-13 07:01:00 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Jauffre Perkele wrote:
Thanks! I have two Navitas', an Iteron Mark I (my hauler), an Atron, an Imicus, a Tristan, a Velator, and a Carcal and Moa which I got in the 9th anniversary free stuff (however I don't have the skill to fly them yet). So do I just repackage them and stick them in my Iteron? Some people in my corp suggested some systems for me.


(edit: I forgot how small iteron I is)

Cruisers are usually 10,000 m3 when repackaged, frigates are smaller. You probably can't fit 10,000 m3 item into Iteron Mark I, but others should not be problem.

Also when repackaging ships you will lose any rigs they have, so if you have expensive rigs it might be better to not repackage them, and just fly rigged ships one by one, or make courier contract for someone else to move them with bigger ship.

Non-repackaged cruisers take around 100,000 m3 space, and courier companies like Push Industries will move upto 900,000 m3 cargo at once. For Push Industries fee will be 400,000 ISK per jump on highsec.

As final option, you could consider leaving some ships behind and come to get them later if you need them. You can allways use Assets-button to show everything you have everywhere, so you don't need to worry about forgetting where you left them. However this also depends on how you like to play - do you mind having stuff scattered all over the galaxy, or do you want to keep Assets tidy and everything at one or few places.

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Jauffre Perkele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-13 07:36:08 UTC
Yeah I think I'll have to just get my cruisers couriered over, as I'm week or so off having skills to fly them (I'm Gallente, so I have to train all the Caldari skills up, had an idiot moment when I got the ships :P).

Thanks for the help Big smile
malaire
#7 - 2012-05-13 07:43:42 UTC
You could ask if your corp offers cheap/free courier service for members.

Also it is possible to just sell the ships if you think it is not worth the efford to get them moved.

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Jauffre Perkele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-13 09:41:58 UTC
Thanks, I'll ask my corp. I don't really want to sell them because missile ships seem so awesome xD
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Blackwater International
#9 - 2012-05-13 22:24:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ilnaurk Sithdogron
You could always just return to your old station and pick up the cruisers after you get the skills to fly them.

I must say, though, getting to cruisers in your first week is kind of overreaching. I flew a destroyer for about a month before I ever picked up my first cruiser.

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Jauffre Perkele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-05-14 10:00:44 UTC
Well I got them free so I figured why not.
Remistor Callaway
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-05-14 20:41:52 UTC
Why the hell you choose Caldari cruisers when you fly Gallente ships?
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Blackwater International
#12 - 2012-05-14 20:53:00 UTC
Well, Gallente does kind of suck....

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Ryelek d'Entari
Horizon Glare
#13 - 2012-05-14 23:01:30 UTC
To be honest, when you want to relocate to another station, just sell the ships you aren't using actively right now - or melt (refine) them and sell the minerals. Get in the habit early of not having sentimental value attached to a ship. You're going to lose pretty much all of them, either due to obsolescence or explosions, eventually. :)

Keep in mind if you've insured a ship, you'll lose the insurance when you repackage it, whether to transport or to sell. Depending on the ship, this can be a significant loss. But ask yourself whether you will really fly that ship much between now and when the insurance expires. Insurance already spent is a sunk cost that you can't recover, so if you're not going to be flying that ship, just liquidate it. You can always buy another one later, and in the meantime you can put that ISK to better use.

You can transport ships one-by-one by using your pod (or a shuttle, or a noobship) for the return flight. This gets old quickly if you're moving many ships a long distance.

There's no benefit in having umpteen different ship hulls in one location. You're much better off picking a small selection of ships for a particular purpose and keeping them on hand. There's also no reason you can't leave ships strewn across the galaxy, ready for use at your convenience. Ideally you'll have several bases of operation as you grow, each base with a purpose and a selection of ships on hand which meet that purpose.

Derrick Diggler
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-05-15 00:25:46 UTC
You have a couple of options after Clellinon there mate, and they are all good.
For mining while you are training for stuff, you have Ekuenbiron and Raneilles right after Luse.
They are both very good places to mine. However do be careful atm because of all the douchebaggery with Hulkageddon which is basically a greefing event against miners and Raneilles is next to low sec system. So Ekuenbiron might be a bit better choice.

You do not have to move all your ships around. That is kind of my mistake i used to do. It would take forever to move everything. What you just need is what you will be doing there. So take your mining ship and drive it there, exit the ship, go back to Clellinon and get your hauler and take that to your new system as well. It is only 2 jumps so it will take you no time at all.

Furthermore you have a few missions hubs around, so you can give that a go for a while as well.

Good luck.
Jauffre Perkele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-15 07:43:41 UTC
Remistor Callaway wrote:
Why the hell you choose Caldari cruisers when you fly Gallente ships?

First, I completely forgot I was Gallente for a second, and second they just looked a lot better than the other ships.
Nuka Kola
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-05-15 09:59:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuka Kola
Ilnaurk Sithdogron wrote:
You could always just return to your old station and pick up the cruisers after you get the skills to fly them.

I must say, though, getting to cruisers in your first week is kind of overreaching. I flew a destroyer for about a month before I ever picked up my first cruiser.
I'm still in my good ol' Merlin, the cormorant I got in the tutorial didn't live to see the end of the tutorial mission it was supposed to be used for...Oops
Edit: Also, I only have that Merlin and most other assets fit in the cargo hold, rest is sold, as-is or reprocessed so settling somewhere else ain't much of an issue.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-05-15 11:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
The far easiest/cheapest way is this:

Load up your Industrial with your items+a few Shuttles.

When at the new station, dump everything there and take one of the Shuttles back to your ships.

Once you arrive, you either sell the Shuttle or reprocess it into Tritanium and sell that.

Jump into a ship and fly it to the new station.

Rinse and repeat.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.

Nicski
Radchak's Raiders
#18 - 2012-05-16 10:14:30 UTC
The best bet for mining in high sec for new players is to mine mission spaces. Most combat missions have asteroids in them, clear the rats, don't hand the mission in, come back in your mining ship and then mine to your hearts content. You won't be disturbed or probed down in a mining frigate or cruiser and you will occassionally pick up better types of asteroids than what exist in the belts. Hand the mission in after you have finished mining, if need be forfeiting the time bonus. Although if you have two account or there are two of you, as long as one character remains inside the mission space it won't despawn when you hand in the mission.

As for moving systems. Don't feel you have to move everything with you. Just take what you need, most players end up with junk scattered all over New Eden. If you like being organised and tidy. Sell the ships and modules you cant get in your hauler and buy new ones at the destination. But in a few weeks you may find yourself moving back, so it doesn't hurt to have several bases, espeically in high sec where you are never going to have access problems. I lost whole evenings playing Eve when I started just moving gear from one station to another, thinking I had to take everything with me.

Getting into a decent sized Industrial Ship, should be a priority for most new players. Frankly there is only one sensible choice - the Amarr Bestower - The Humble Bestower