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Behold the Unrighteousness of the Theology Council

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Xane Valadeus
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-14 13:05:34 UTC
Vaari wrote:
Our holy and noble Theology Council is not unrighteous. It is totally opposite. They safeguard the purity of our faith, and teach us how to properly interpret the holy words of the Scriptures.


Strictly speaking, the Order of St. Tetrimon was tasked with safeguarding the purity of the Amarrian Faith and did so diligently until it lost favor during the time of Moral Reforms, which resulted in the formation of the Theology Council and Privy Council following the dissolution of the Council of Apostles.

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-05-14 13:43:32 UTC
Xane Valadeus wrote:
Vaari wrote:
Our holy and noble Theology Council is not unrighteous. It is totally opposite. They safeguard the purity of our faith, and teach us how to properly interpret the holy words of the Scriptures.


Strictly speaking, the Order of St. Tetrimon was tasked with safeguarding the purity of the Amarrian Faith and did so diligently until it lost favor during the time of Moral Reforms, which resulted in the formation of the Theology Council and Privy Council following the dissolution of the Council of Apostles.



Do I detect some Tertrimon sympathies?

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Xane Valadeus
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-05-14 14:15:49 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Xane Valadeus wrote:
Vaari wrote:
Our holy and noble Theology Council is not unrighteous. It is totally opposite. They safeguard the purity of our faith, and teach us how to properly interpret the holy words of the Scriptures.


Strictly speaking, the Order of St. Tetrimon was tasked with safeguarding the purity of the Amarrian Faith and did so diligently until it lost favor during the time of Moral Reforms, which resulted in the formation of the Theology Council and Privy Council following the dissolution of the Council of Apostles.



Do I detect some Tertrimon sympathies?



What you 'detect' is history, stated plainly.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-05-14 15:01:32 UTC
Xane Valadeus wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Xane Valadeus wrote:
Vaari wrote:
Our holy and noble Theology Council is not unrighteous. It is totally opposite. They safeguard the purity of our faith, and teach us how to properly interpret the holy words of the Scriptures.


Strictly speaking, the Order of St. Tetrimon was tasked with safeguarding the purity of the Amarrian Faith and did so diligently until it lost favor during the time of Moral Reforms, which resulted in the formation of the Theology Council and Privy Council following the dissolution of the Council of Apostles.



Do I detect some Tertrimon sympathies?



What you 'detect' is history, stated plainly.


There's always two sides to a story, Xane.

Additionally every statement has a purpose. Especially from a capsuleer.

For a loyal Imperial subject, discussing the Tertrimon too much, or referring to the Theology Council in anything less than a deferential tone, might just be a subversive activity.

Vaari makes an overtly positive statement about the Theology council, and then you 'clarify' his statement.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Xane Valadeus
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-05-14 15:11:18 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:

There's always two sides to a story, Xane.

Additionally every statement has a purpose. Especially from a capsuleer.

For a loyal Imperial subject, discussing the Tertrimon too much, or referring to the Theology Council in anything less than a deferential tone, might just be a subversive activity.


Vaari makes an overtly positive statement about the Theology council, and then you 'clarify' his statement.


There are usually more than two sides to a story, but there is always only one truth.

I added emphasis to your own statements in order to illustrate my next point:

My statement: A brief, historically factual account bereft of any personal sentiment.

Your statement: A suggestion of preferential sympathies followed by a warning to remain cautious in speech when referring to or about two separate entities.

Indeed, every statement has a purpose. I suggest you choose your statements carefully, especially when pointing fingers simultaneously.

As to your last statement. Vaari made an "overly positive statement" about the Theology Council. I made a historical clarification and nothing more. Last I checked, this was not a sin.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-05-14 15:23:07 UTC
Xane Valadeus wrote:
I made a historical clarification and nothing more. Last I checked, this was not a sin.


The academy graduates seem light on street-smarts these days so some small advice to our new pilot -

Be careful with 'Historical Clarifications' when referring to Imperial history or current politics. The MIO and the Theology Council have built entire Cathedrals on the piles of bodies of those willing to 'clarify' history or speak truth to power.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2012-05-14 15:31:52 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Xane Valadeus wrote:
I made a historical clarification and nothing more. Last I checked, this was not a sin.


The academy graduates seem light on street-smarts these days so some small advice to our new pilot -

Be careful with 'Historical Clarifications' when referring to Imperial history or current politics. The MIO and the Theology Council have built entire Cathedrals on the piles of bodies of those willing to 'clarify' history or speak truth to power.



You gave up your right to lecture graduates on the proper decorum for an Amarrian pilot the moment you turned your back on the Empire and became a heretic.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-05-14 15:36:06 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Xane Valadeus wrote:
I made a historical clarification and nothing more. Last I checked, this was not a sin.


The academy graduates seem light on street-smarts these days so some small advice to our new pilot -

Be careful with 'Historical Clarifications' when referring to Imperial history or current politics. The MIO and the Theology Council have built entire Cathedrals on the piles of bodies of those willing to 'clarify' history or speak truth to power.



You gave up your right to lecture graduates on the proper decorum for an Amarrian pilot the moment you turned your back on the Empire and became a heretic.


Well step up then, Rodj!

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2012-05-14 15:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Xane Valadeus wrote:
Vaari wrote:
Our holy and noble Theology Council is not unrighteous. It is totally opposite. They safeguard the purity of our faith, and teach us how to properly interpret the holy words of the Scriptures.


Strictly speaking, the Order of St. Tetrimon was tasked with safeguarding the purity of the Amarrian Faith and did so diligently until it lost favor during the time of Moral Reforms, which resulted in the formation of the Theology Council and Privy Council following the dissolution of the Council of Apostles.



Even more strictly speaking the Order of St Tetrimon was tasked with purging Scripture of apocryphal and non-canon texts.

It failed to do this sufficiently well, and that was the cause of their loss of favour.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#30 - 2012-05-14 15:45:29 UTC
In general, Xane, you're better off not interacting with Vaari, for your own sanity's sake.

Just smile, nod, and remind yourself that even PIE will facepalm at the majority of what he says.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Xane Valadeus
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-05-14 16:01:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Xane Valadeus
Silas Vitalia wrote:

The academy graduates seem light on street-smarts these days so some small advice to our new pilot -

Be careful with 'Historical Clarifications' when referring to Imperial history or current politics. The MIO and the Theology Council have built entire Cathedrals on the piles of bodies of those willing to 'clarify' history or speak truth to power.



While I appreciate your warning, understand that I see the unwillingness to stand for what is true and just out of fear to be cowardice of the worst kind. There was a time when man would sacrifice themselves willingly for a just cause, believing it better to die with honor and integrity than to live eternally in fear and shame. How ironic it is that we, who hail ourselves "immortals" have lost sight of this.

Rodj Blake wrote:

Even more strictly speaking the Order of St Tetrimon was tasked with purging Scripture of apocryphal and non-canon texts.

It failed to do this sufficiently well, and that was the cause of their loss of favour.


In part, yes.

It was tasked with removing and purging the declarations of a certain blasphemous emperor, which it clearly failed at doing completely. However, it later opposed the standing Emperor during the time of Moral Reforms, siding with the Council of Apostles against the social and political reform of the Empire, as well as a number of other changes. It was this stance against the Emperor that played a greater role in its subsequent downfall.

Even more strictly speaking, of course.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-05-14 16:27:02 UTC
Xane Valadeus wrote:
I see the unwillingness to stand for what is true and just out of fear to be cowardice of the worst kind.


Well young one, True and Just usually depends on who is holding the gun, or in the Imperial case, the supposed ancient superweapons....

I suggest you start your quest close to home and we'll check in.

Ta-Ta!

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Xane Valadeus
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-05-14 16:44:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Xane Valadeus
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Xane Valadeus wrote:
I see the unwillingness to stand for what is true and just out of fear to be cowardice of the worst kind.


Well young one, True and Just usually depends on who is holding the gun, or in the Imperial case, the supposed ancient superweapons....

I suggest you start your quest close to home and we'll check in.

Ta-Ta!


Truth has nothing to do with weapons or power. Truth is truth and despite how hard we may fight against it, it remains the truth.

What is Just likewise has nothing to do with power or weapons, but rather what is honorable and true.

What you are referring to is known as coercion and while every government, political body and power figure is likely guilty of coercion to some extent, it is not what separates right from wrong, truth from falsity. I cannot, in good conscience nor in faith to God, turn my back on truth simply because the weapons are bigger and the army more populated on the other side and I certainly won't be taking my opinion of the Empire from an open dissenter and traitor.

My quest starting long before I entered the capsule and it certainly started close to home, as you can likely imagine. I would ask that you not "check in" or "visit," as I've little more to say to you.

May God's mercy abound in your life.
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