EVE General Discussion

For certain people that is the perfect scenario.
Its not that hard to grasp if you think about it.

Sounds good to me^^ More pay for less work. Tho noxcium was a bit underpriced at one time but saved it and made a 17mil additional profit for no work at all.

Still a cut down to almost 50% on mined stuffs in high sec. Didn't expect that to be honest. Guess more miners need to wise up.

The actual numbers don't mean anything. Seriously do you really care if 3001 m3 were mined in the past minute, versus 3478m3? However the industry level implies some numbers thanks to the system decay that has to be fended off to prevent the level falling. To maintain industry 5 you need 12M m3 worth of mining per 24 hours. To maintain industry 3, you need 3M m3 mined per 24 hours. It's up to you to use google and a calculator to figure out the rest. Yeah it's an "average" number, but it's a real number.

This is the really short version:

1. Goonswarm funds hulkageddon with technetium, paying gankers 100m ISK for 10 kills.
2. Hulkageddon effectively cuts the amount of mined ORE in high-sec by 50%

Ergo, one broken game mechanic allows the breaking of another game mechanic.

I doubt the mining profession will die off entirely. If prices go high enough, it'd even be economical to mine in a tanked battleship, if necessary. And of course suicide ganking won't effect null and WH mining ops, since they already know how to mind their ships.

I agree from what I have seen first hand :: the belts are a freakin' set of ghost towns now, and the roidz tend to have max m3. So, yeah, thanks for clearing out the belts! In fact, our scouts have found many wrecked hulks and the presence of Concorde all around us, and yet we mine without harassment. We do see a bunch of guys mining in cruisers, which may well be part of the explanation for the mining reduction.

Having said that, we are mining almost as much as usual, but we do so in a fleet of Rokhs with a Drake as the mining boss (my main). The one drawback is that we must use jet cans, so griefers come around and steal ore from time to time, but for the most part, we get left alone to harvest ore and supply minerals to a hungry public and profit as usual. Our fleet is described here. We recently recruited another guy making it a 3@Rokh + 1@Drake (Boss) fleet. We have always flown Rokhs during HulkaG, but this is the first year we actually formed up a mining fleet due to the atypical one month duration.

Our attitude is that maybe Rokh fleets will get targeted in HulkaG VI, but the gankers are gonna have to spend some ISK and generally function with a coordinated effort to take out a ships(s) with Incursion quality tanks and with omni resists in the 90's. Admittedly, the Drake is the wimpiest ship in the fleet ... but way cheaper to replace than an Orca in the event it is targeted.

So yeah - thanks for clearing out the belts. I'm not sure it's all that good for the economy, but as a statement of having an impact on the game, just look at the empty belts...

It isn't hurting miners, in fact as mineral prices go up newbie miners (who belong in high sec) will be earning higher ISK/hour.

All thanks to James 315 and his ilk's tireless efforts to rid Eve of those overly-experienced miners that should have grown the balls to leave high sec years ago.

There's no need to bring out the conspiracy theories. Hulkageddon is open to anyone. If bots aren't being killed, its because they're better at avoiding/surviving ganks than human miners.

How gracious of everyone.

Hasn't stopped them in the past 9 years.