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Tablet or other E-Reader - Advice? Experiences?

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Alain Kinsella
#1 - 2012-05-14 11:17:41 UTC
After getting yet another 500+ page book on computing subjects (Nagios in this case), I am strongly considering an e-reader device of some sort. However, I'm concerned about being tied to a format, as well as dealing with the current PDF-only documentation I have for commercial software at work (such as Networker & NetBackup software from ~ 2007 or older).

I am currently leaning toward either the Nook or Kindle, since they both happen to have a selection of computer-based books on the subjects I'm most likely to use right now (Python, Perl, shells, Solaris, etc). I am also watching developments with the BB Playbook, due to my already using a Curve phone supplied by work. I don't need any major bells/whistles - just the e-reader and perhaps web access would be fine, though color is useful for some of our documentation.

For now, Apple is out of the running, sorry. I have no qualms about the devices, but I do have issues with iTunes only for connection. Even my BB has a 'USB' mode that allows me to make it accessible to some of our Sparc boxes (this has come in handy at work).

A new notebook can also be considered, either tablet format or normal, which is also why I'm leaning toward either Nook or Kindle. No smaller than 14" please, and the ability to run Eve is not a requirement -but battery life of 4+ hours is essential (which is why my current notebook has lasted since 2005 - on the original battery). Current notebook is an HP L2005 'Livestrong' model, running Win7 64-bit, upgraded with an Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD (from my old 2003 Sager).

So, anyone with the above devices have good or bad experiences with them? Any other alternative out there?

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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-14 11:44:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sidus Isaacs
I got a kindle app on my iPad. Works fairly well, gives you a tablet and kindle in one. I am actually very fond of this medium, I can carry a lot of interesting book with me quite easily. And a table lets you do all a kindle can do + have dedicated pdf readers and what not (it also works on youporn/redtube, and that is a neat bonus).

However, I would not recommended the iPad, it is actually a weak device and very limited. If I had not gotten it for free from my work I would have gotten another tablet device from Samsung/HTC or whatever runs android. I avoid Apple as much as I can.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#3 - 2012-05-14 14:13:06 UTC
I'm a firm believer in e-ink over the backlit screens that a lot of them are using now. It saves on power, is useable in more places (direct sunlight) and is easier on the eyes for long reads. I have a Sony PRS-505, which is an older model that is basically platform-independent.

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Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#4 - 2012-05-14 17:13:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaahles
Not a huge fan of tablets for reading. Maybe because I'm a little biassed because I actually own a Kindle and no tablet but in the end it depends on what you're looking for. If you just want to read and don't need/want the additional functionality of a tablet always go for a dedicated e-reading device with an e-ink screen.

Why? Pretty simple:
As mentioned before although only black and white and not backlit the e-ink display does not reflect anything. Direct sunlight is not an issue at all. Actually some of the time I like to sit in the sun on purpose to read on the device. It's kinda nice.

And and the batteries last for ages since the display actually only consumes energy upon "creating" the page. Once it is loaded no energy is consumed.

That said there are however a few limitations you might need to consider. Although the kindle in particular has a chromium based (experimental) browser that works quite well the screens latency is not all the good on e-ink devices plus you got no support for movies/streams and the sort.
Another thing to consider is that PDF is a really terrible format. Kindle can display it but it's no fun working with it plus it is a terrible format to convert into proper e-book files. This is the reason I try to avoid this terrible file format like the plague and save my own "creations" in a proper text file that can be easily converted into everything you desire (including pdf).

So yeah depends on what you want. Using mostly proper ebook formats, direct sunlight can be an issue and you're not interested in charging the device all the time plus want something light/small? Go for an e-reader no questions there.

Want an all-rounder with a proper web-browser, back lighting, good pdf displaying and direct sunlight isn't an issue at all? You'll probably want to spend your money on a decent tablet (i.e. not iPad) or netbook.

ninja edit almost forgot.. although the Kindle does not currently support the ePUB format (which is basically what everybody is using) it supports MOBI (which almost every ebook store has as an alternative and is technically the same format as AZW). In addition since ePUB is a proper e-book format converting it into something that works (like MOBI) isn't really an issue.
W1rlW1nd
WirlWind
#5 - 2012-05-16 04:14:20 UTC
for just reading documents, my recommendation is the LARGE size kindle DX.

I have both large and small kindles, and ipad, and kindle apps on my pcs, laptops and phone and used them all. If I had to pick one device just to read a book or pdf documents it would be my kindle DX, for the large screen format and black on white e-ink.

The nooks/sony's don't have large enough screens imo. and like some of the others, you'll love the free no-subscription 3G whispernet so you can download books out of the air anywhere, no WiFi hot spot required. And that also allows you to send PDF files from your pc to your kindle wirelessly if you like.

But any e-reader will probably get the job done, try them out in store and see which form-factor you like best.





Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-16 04:38:02 UTC
The Kindle Fire is good, backlit screen so you don't need to be in the stupid sun Blink

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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#7 - 2012-05-24 14:05:58 UTC
My wife gets some serious milage out of her Kindle Fire. The only flaw she has complained about is that it doesn't handle magezines well. For everything else, it is amazing according to her. I don't really do much E-reading so I merely add her opinions on this matter.

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Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
#8 - 2012-05-24 15:47:15 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
My wife gets some serious milage out of her Kindle Fire. The only flaw she has complained about is that it doesn't handle magezines well. For everything else, it is amazing according to her. I don't really do much E-reading so I merely add her opinions on this matter.


I have had a Fire since January, and I agree completely.


Books work great, no complaints there.

Magazines require zooming in; the screen resolution is not quite high enough to clearly read some text while viewing a full page.

No real complaints about web browsing, although I would prefer a larger form factor in this area as well. Just don't expect it to perform like an iPad.


All in all it;s not a bad device. But in hindsight, I would probably now buy a larger form factor Android tablet without Amazons market limitations.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-05-25 00:41:26 UTC
I have a BB playboook.I absolutely love it.

since they released OS2 in Feb it has been fantastic and since you have a curve already it really is a no-brainer.
I mean it can do so much more than a kindle fire and it's the same price. not a contest for me

good luck
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#10 - 2012-05-25 08:57:54 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Not a huge fan of tablets for reading. Maybe because I'm a little biassed because I actually own a Kindle and no tablet but in the end it depends on what you're looking for. If you just want to read and don't need/want the additional functionality of a tablet always go for a dedicated e-reading device with an e-ink screen.
Very much this.
I bought a cheapa$$ tablet to read and do "other stuff" and all I end up doing with it is reading and maybe listening to a podcast.

What I have now is a cheap backlit screen that has to be plugged in after 4-5 hours and after a day of reading I look up to bloodshot eyes in the mirror. Evil

Tl;dr tablets are only good for reading anyways, get one that does that best and doesn´t blind you.
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-05-25 10:20:13 UTC
For reading: The $80 Kindle is my favorite. You can also pay an extra $30 to get rid of the advertisements if they bother you.

For general use: The Kindle Fire straddles a weird line between "color Kindle" and full tablet, but it's popular for a reason.

For everything: I say wait for a Windows 8 tablet. Microsoft Office on a touch-screen, hopefully?

/2 whatevers

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Alain Kinsella
#12 - 2012-05-26 13:40:07 UTC
Thanks for the comments so far.

I finally discovered that the local MicroCenter had a bunch of tablets on display, including Kindle (though not the playbook, which is not a surprise really). Looked at a relatively recent Nook, a Kindle Fire, and two Android systems (I didn't know they were at first, just liked the larger screens and overall form factor when I saw them).

I tried manipulating whatever they had on there for books, as well as bringing up two wordpress-based websites (my own, which is a 'stock' layout, and another that I know is module-laden).

The sites come up pretty good, but the top and background images take the longest on a Kindle Fire they had there. Not a huge deal but a surprise anyway.

Two things that did come to mind so far:

-> The 'keyboard' interface was pretty bad on Kindle, fair on the Nook, but worked really well on the two Android-based devices I tried (closest to the iPad). This will probably not be a deal-breaker as long as the BT keyboard systems I saw will work with the device I choose.

-> I am very surprised how heavy the Kindle Fire was (taking into account the anti-theft cables attached to all of them Big smile ), and yet it also appeared the least solid. The Nook and two Android systems looked far more durable.

The two other systems were from Acer and Asus, and I loved their interface (basically the same). It would be a coin toss between the two, if I chose this route, since both companies have good experience in notebook spaces. If Sager had a tablet of some sort, though, I'd get very curious.

Riedle wrote:
I have a BB playboook.I absolutely love it.

since they released OS2 in Feb it has been fantastic and since you have a curve already it really is a no-brainer.
I mean it can do so much more than a kindle fire and it's the same price. not a contest for me

good luck


Thanks. Do you know if a PlayBook will require Enterprise locking, if the connecting BB already is as well?


@ Jett0 - valid point about Win8. Is there a set date for release yet? I'm not in any hurry, so may consider waiting.

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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-05-28 00:31:48 UTC
Quote:
Thanks. Do you know if a PlayBook will require Enterprise locking, if the connecting BB already is as well?


The playbook connects to the cell phone via the bridge so you use the data from the cell phone if not using your home wifi.

If you mean your work email, I am not entirely sure. I don't have a BB cell phone (waiting for BB10) but I asked the IT guy at work for my micrsoft exchange info and I get my work email on it no prob. If your cell phone can already get your work email I don't think you would need to do anything else.

Like I said, it is a really good tablet. It was a marketing disaster but I think of it is a well kept secret. full flash support as well and very cheap because they didn't sell many

good luck
Alain Kinsella
#14 - 2012-07-22 09:27:11 UTC
As I'm dropping off for awhile, an update:

Playbook is now off the table due to not knowing if RIM devices will exist at work - or at all - in the next year or two. I'm currently eying the latest device that Google released, and it my favorite in both size and price right now. The other alternative would be something like an Iconia Tab, or just punt and get a Nook for now.

Thanks for the info everyone.

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Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
#15 - 2012-07-22 09:45:20 UTC
i love my kindle 3. i hear the touch screens are nice, but my hands are always touching the screen so its out for me.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-22 09:58:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Anyanka Funk
I totally stick to Android and Google Play Books. I had both nook and kindle. When I actually have time to read I usually don't have either with me. I always have my Droid with me though. Play Books is just as customizable and I can even listen to music while I read or anything else I can do with a Droid. It's also cheaper comparatively, my Droid was only a penny.