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The Glory of Mining, Why are Miners Misunderstood?
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Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#61 - 2012-05-14 02:39:45 UTC
I'm not going to sit here and try to convince anyone that mining is fun. Fun, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

I am one of those who enjoys mining for the zen feeling. Or, if I'm in Low Sec, I enjoy it by how it grabs my attention and forces me to stay focused, since anyone can jump me at any time.

I do, however, object to the sense of entitlement that the non-harvesters have towards the harvesters.

I don't blame them for it (well, okay, maybe I do a little). For years, Eve has been a game built for the destroyers. In order to accomplish something, it was necessary to destroy. Need Zydrine? Destroy meta 0 loot. Need Nocxium? Destroy Drones. Need Technium? Destroy POSes. Need ISK? Destroy complexes.

This is the house that CCP build and harvesters had to live in. Second class citizens to the destroyers. That has generated an attitude that this is "their game." How dare we harvesters try to make a living here! We should be destroying along with everyone else! We're doing it wrong!

You think Burn Jita, OTECH and Hulkageddon occurring so quickly after the Inferno patch that gave a huge boost to harvesters is a coincidence? It is the destroyers exercising their dominance. Showing everyone that despite what happened in Inferno, they are still the 'true masters' of Eve, that the harvesters and builders are still nothing more than beggars, living at the sufferance of the destroyers.

That is the attitude I despise. Not the fact that harvesters are being destroyed. That happening, the possibility, the freedom that allows such things to happen, I welcome. It is the fact that people think we should be destroyed, that somehow we are an aberration that either needs to be changed or driven out. The attitude that says there is no place for us in New Eden, and that we should not be here, that is what is wrong.

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2012-05-14 02:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Because shooting players is always going to be more fun than shooting immobile rocks. Even the most carebear of the carebears have the option of shooting braindead AI constructs that at least attempt to shoot back.



but not much more fun.... miners are little more than rocks in space themselves... suicide ganking is the lowest form of pvp (as such it's the least fun) Seriously, they can't defend themselves and the ganker knows he is going to die in the gank too.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Anatat
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-05-14 02:47:37 UTC
Well I just re-subbed, and decided to take the Hulk out for a spin. Within an hour I'm being ganked in a dead end system. So my drones and the cops killed em, whatever. I dock up and read, O, Hulka is going on.

I mean its a sandbox, so whatever, but seriously I don't understand all the stupidity directed at miners. It's part of the game, some people enjoy it, some don't . I don't rip on null sec people for wandering through gates for 2 hours trying to find a target they outnumber 4 to 1. I like missioning, sometimes. I like mining, occasionally. I like PVP, here and there. Isn't that what makes the game good?