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How to never get suicide ganked again.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#21 - 2012-05-13 15:25:45 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Vito Antonio wrote:
Can you link any killmails with rokhs getting suicide ganked in hisec?


You should know that not many will use Rokhs in highsec. It's mostly used in blob warfare as sniper.


No one really uses rokhs in null, except PL's occasional fleet. They can't compete with Abaddons or Maelstroms tbh.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-13 15:25:52 UTC
Vito Antonio wrote:


Can you link any killmails with rokhs getting suicide ganked in hisec?



And a Goon died too:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13208579

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-05-13 15:27:42 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:

I can do better.

Don't underestimate the desire to gank someone to prove a point. Nothing is safe.



Another Troll from the lady here.

It's not a Rokh herpa derpa.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-05-13 15:29:16 UTC
How to never get caught in an elevator again. Use the stairs.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#25 - 2012-05-13 15:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:

I can do better.

Don't underestimate the desire to gank someone to prove a point. Nothing is safe.



Another Troll from the lady here.

It's not a Rokh herpa derpa.


No, it has significantly more EHP.

It also took 1/3rd as many pilots to kill as your example of a gank that probably costed more than it killed Roll.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-05-13 15:33:17 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
No, it has significantly more EHP.


Mining Rokh has 100k+ EHP.
That failfit Orca had 56k+ EHP.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#27 - 2012-05-13 15:36:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
No, it has significantly more EHP.


Mining Rokh has 100k+ EHP.
That failfit Orca had 56k+ EHP.


113k EHP.

Try again. Feel free to plug it in and see. A freaking unfit orca has about 90k.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#28 - 2012-05-13 15:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
I think this quote sums it up :)

Joachim:
Quote:
We're all with you, sir. But, consider this. We are free. We have a ship, and the means to go where we will. We have escaped permanent exile on Ceti Alpha V. You have defeated the plans of Admiral Kirk. You do not need to defeat him again.

Khan:
Quote:
He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round Perdition's flames before I give him up!
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-05-13 15:39:06 UTC
Mine in a Battle Barge.

(Now, if only CCP would create the Goliath.)
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#30 - 2012-05-13 15:40:12 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Mine in a Battle Barge.

(Now, if only CCP would create the Goliath.)


Want a redeemer godlike weapon at the centre of every system too?
Cofalib
GG Logistics
#31 - 2012-05-13 15:41:01 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Vito Antonio wrote:

Can you link any killmails with rokhs getting suicide ganked in hisec?


I can do better.

Don't underestimate the desire to gank someone to prove a point. Nothing is safe.


I'd love to have been that Orca pilot, lol.

Having a bad day? Load up that kill, have a good laugh. That would never get old for me.

I see a point being made, it screams "We're stupid" lol
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#32 - 2012-05-13 15:44:09 UTC
Cofalib wrote:
[quote=Akirei Scytale]

I'd love to have been that Orca pilot, lol.

Having a bad day? Load up that kill, have a good laugh. That would never get old for me.

I see a point being made, it screams "We're stupid" lol


I take it you didn't understand why the ice interdiction was happening?
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-13 15:44:46 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
113k EHP.

Try again. Feel free to plug it in and see. A freaking unfit orca has about 90k.


186k EHP with heat.

[Rokh, Miner]

Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-05-13 15:45:32 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Unsubscribe thyself.

(sorry about the parlance, saw 'Dark Shadows' yesterday)

pardon my interruption, but could you explain if such feature is, indeed, of good quality?

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Sneakybustard
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-05-13 16:49:28 UTC
best way to never get suicide ganked is to stop playing.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-05-13 17:01:04 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
No, it has significantly more EHP.


Mining Rokh has 100k+ EHP.
That failfit Orca had 56k+ EHP.


113k EHP.

Try again. Feel free to plug it in and see. A freaking unfit orca has about 90k.


Depends on pilot skills, surely? And with that many cargo rigs/mods, I wouldn't be surprised if the EHP was that low.
James Razor
RazorEnterprise
#37 - 2012-05-13 17:22:54 UTC
Sneakybustard wrote:
best way to never get suicide ganked is to stop playing.


Brilliant idea. Actually, i think it is about time that all the miners unsub. Even if just for a month or two.

Lets see what all those pro-pvpers do if ship prices go through the sky and what CCP does if there income drops. I guess that is the only way they actually do something on the situation.

I dont say that ganking is bad, in fact i did that myself and will continue to do it. But i think there should be a way for people to play the game how they like to play it and not to be forced to play other peoples game. Maybee make a difference between civilan and military vessel with special protection for the civilian ships (like mining ships).

Or a new brand of mining vessels that make mining competitive again. A ORE Titan (or supercarrier with automatic mining fighter drones) would be nice as example. One that can access Highsec of course.

Old Bitter Veteran.
Dalden V
Yellow Lounge Industries
#38 - 2012-05-13 17:29:34 UTC
Back in the day before mining barges we all did mining ops in our Apocs - those were the days!
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-05-13 17:44:03 UTC
James Razor wrote:
Sneakybustard wrote:
best way to never get suicide ganked is to stop playing.


Brilliant idea. Actually, i think it is about time that all the miners unsub. Even if just for a month or two.

Lets see what all those pro-pvpers do if ship prices go through the sky and what CCP does if there income drops. I guess that is the only way they actually do something on the situation.

I dont say that ganking is bad, in fact i did that myself and will continue to do it. But i think there should be a way for people to play the game how they like to play it and not to be forced to play other peoples game. Maybee make a difference between civilan and military vessel with special protection for the civilian ships (like mining ships).

Or a new brand of mining vessels that make mining competitive again. A ORE Titan (or supercarrier with automatic mining fighter drones) would be nice as example. One that can access Highsec of course.


Why? The chances that anyone would bother ganking a mining battleship are already pathetically small. You can mine to your hearts content in one.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-05-13 18:01:00 UTC
Mine in null, then if you get ganked it's won't be a "suicide".

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
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