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New dev blog: Alliance Tournament X Sign Ups, Commentators and Schedule

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Lazarus Telraven
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#101 - 2012-05-12 16:36:17 UTC
Planetmaster wrote:
Hi

Some questions for CCP and Producers of AT

1. Why same people as commentators ?

2. Why so many people from CFC / Goons / Tests etc.

3. Dont have "any new" players to be commentators ?

4. Check kills Commentator's kills .. well they are not "so active" in game anymore

Raivi
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50415

Lazarus Telraven
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=46509

Zastrow
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=98540

michael boltonIII
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=596179

Kil2
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=83996

5. Why only native English commentators ? Eve is English game only ?

6. Sorry for my questions but more ppl are starting to see it in that way

Its not good for company PR when you are making sort of SUPERSTARS of EveTV.. Think about that. And yeah for ordinary player like me is starting to be sort of "Elite Club" where bunch of guys starting to be Devs best friends.... .


This is eve you cannot base activity off a single characters killboard, I am an FC for the CFC and when I am FCing i dont get on any killmails because im doing more important things like not getting my fleet killed. I also have 4+ accounts that my kills are split across.
Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2012-05-12 17:18:04 UTC
Lazarus Telraven wrote:
Planetmaster wrote:
Hi

Some questions for CCP and Producers of AT

1. Why same people as commentators ?

2. Why so many people from CFC / Goons / Tests etc.

3. Dont have "any new" players to be commentators ?

4. Check kills Commentator's kills .. well they are not "so active" in game anymore

Raivi
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50415

Lazarus Telraven
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=46509

Zastrow
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=98540

michael boltonIII
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=596179

Kil2
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=83996

5. Why only native English commentators ? Eve is English game only ?

6. Sorry for my questions but more ppl are starting to see it in that way

Its not good for company PR when you are making sort of SUPERSTARS of EveTV.. Think about that. And yeah for ordinary player like me is starting to be sort of "Elite Club" where bunch of guys starting to be Devs best friends.... .


This is eve you cannot base activity off a single characters killboard, I am an FC for the CFC and when I am FCing i dont get on any killmails because im doing more important things like not getting my fleet killed. I also have 4+ accounts that my kills are split across.


Lazarus Im fine with that. I know that you are FC. And as i know is your first time. So everything is OK for me. but I think that CCP should think more about "stars" or maybe less think about stars.. Coz AT starting to be like khardasians .. Dev and "some" players LOVE.

No offence it wasn't about you.
Intigo
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2012-05-13 06:54:55 UTC
The replies in this thread are absolutely amazing. That there are still people complaining about the PLEX entry just shows how incredibly short-sighted & ignorant they are.

Excellent posts by Loxy & Soundwave - best of luck in the tournament. Have a great one, bros.

hydra provail
killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2012-05-13 10:12:33 UTC
New modules introduced with Inferno will be valid during the qualifying rounds. The Alliance Tournament team will monitor their use during qualifying rounds and potentially ban or restrict the use of certain modules if we feel they are reducing the overall quality of the tournament.Flagships

this should mix things up a little

:)
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#105 - 2012-05-13 15:14:57 UTC
Thread cleaned of off topic posts.

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drdxie
#106 - 2012-05-14 00:05:22 UTC
Can't wait... look more forward to the AT than the free xmass gifts Shocked
and teams.. you don't get disqualified for frapsing... so give us junkies lots to look forward to Twisted

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Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-05-15 01:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara
CCP Navigator wrote:
So why PLEX instead of ISK? Quite simply, PLEX is just much easier to manage and allows us to create some revenue to fund this and future tournaments. As we intend to stream all four weekends, we obviously incur additional costs. Using PLEX allows us to provide a top quality stream and production throughout the entire event.


How many salaries, benefit packages and perks did you carve out of your budget via last year's layoffs? And you can't afford to put on a marketing event like the Alliance tourney w/o gouging your customers (team participants)?

Hilmar must really have his back to the wall if you are nickel and diming your subscribers.

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Knug LiDi
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#108 - 2012-05-15 20:52:32 UTC
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
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How many salaries, benefit packages and perks did you carve out of your budget via last year's layoffs? And you can't afford to put on a marketing event like the Alliance tourney w/o gouging your customers (team participants)?

Hilmar must really have his back to the wall if you are nickel and diming your subscribers.


If you think that even in the case of 600 plex being redeemed to pay for this tournament, that CCP is gouging your customers, you have no idea of the cost to CCP to run and broadcast this tournament.

if each plex was $15 at 600 is only 9000 bucks. A budget of 9000 bucks for my time is spent in 60 hours - I cannot imagine the costs of just the crew's time, let alone flying guys to iceland, broadcasts costs, set costs, organizational costs . . .

You have 10 folks around a table, you're seeing more than a thousand bucks per hour flying out the window.

I would be surprised that just organizing cost CCP $9000. I wouldn't be surprised if the costs to CCP are 10 x the 600 PLEX that is (estimated) to be the entry fees for this tournament, and I expect the true costs to be even higher than that.

Hell, I'm spending $75 bucks (5 PLEX) just to attend a golf tournament where I can't actually play due to a leg cast! (But I intend to ride around on the golf cart getting impaired - I can't drive, so I can't be drinking and driving ! - I may putt a few holes if I'm sober enough)

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without falling into her hands
boliano
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#109 - 2012-05-16 22:00:26 UTC
Shame on you ccp, charging rl money to be able to do a tournament in a game we already pay for.
My alliance was really excited bout trying to be in the tourney till we read the ten plex cost!!!!
Isk i understand but rl money which is what a plex is, is just greed...

So many steps forward for ccp lately, and now such a major step back...
Thank you ccp for showing that even something thats supposed to be for fun like the alliance tournament, can just be turned into another revenue sink for ccp....
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2012-05-17 05:43:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
boliano wrote:
Shame on you ccp, charging rl money to be able to do a tournament in a game we already pay for.
My alliance was really excited bout trying to be in the tourney till we read the ten plex cost!!!!
Isk i understand but rl money which is what a plex is, is just greed...

So many steps forward for ccp lately, and now such a major step back...
Thank you ccp for showing that even something thats supposed to be for fun like the alliance tournament, can just be turned into another revenue sink for ccp....





Your not paying real money if you use your isk to buy the plex and add it to your redeem list.

Although it atleast covers some of the cost for CCP but your not forking out real money is use plex... it is that simple.

They don't have to do it. You can also go back to a flawed system where there are no proper check and balances in place for the tournament. We pay to play the game... not for them to spoil people with free trips and events.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#111 - 2012-05-18 09:46:53 UTC
boliano wrote:
Shame on you ccp, charging rl money to be able to do a tournament in a game we already pay for.
My alliance was really excited bout trying to be in the tourney till we read the ten plex cost!!!!
Isk i understand but rl money which is what a plex is, is just greed...

So many steps forward for ccp lately, and now such a major step back...
Thank you ccp for showing that even something thats supposed to be for fun like the alliance tournament, can just be turned into another revenue sink for ccp....





Try actually running a tournament of this magnitude before you run your mouth about costs, i wouldnt be surprised if this is costing CCP at least 20 times what they make back in entry money, especially given they refund the entry if you fail to get into the tournament.

If they truely intended to gouge us for money theres a hell of a lot more effective ways they could have used than a simple entry fee, which by the way when converted to ISK is less than last years fee, that doesnt even cost you any real money if you have half a brain about how you buy what makes it up. If the PLEX system had been set up specifically for the tournament you might have a small semblence of a point but its been around for ages, why the hell wouldnt they use it when its a lot simpler for them to say 'go buy ten of this thing we already have a purchase and trading system in place for'.

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