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CCP time to fix the orca exploit
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#41 - 2012-05-13 12:02:12 UTC
Just Alter wrote:
daddys helper wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..


I sure hope you're better at training skills than you are at posting


Even if that was the case i can wager that he always forget to press the apply button Big smile.


He's training Advanced Shiptoasting V right now.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Caecilia Arene
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-05-13 12:22:34 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
SlapNuts wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?



WHo said this is an exploit?


I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..

You can call it whatever you want but I'm pretty sure only CCP can call something an exploit.

Me thinks you are a disgruntled miner who got ganked ;)
Touk
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-05-13 12:26:36 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Tippia wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
I did!
…in other words, it's not an exploit. Dumping ships into space for other pilots to enter is pretty much exactly what the Orca is for. Granted, being able to do so also makes roughly zero difference for -10s, but why on earth shouldn't they be able to us this core functionality of the ship?

Tippia wrote:
The Orca is meant for supporting fleets in highsec, like all command ships,


Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use..

The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore..

CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not!



your an idiot.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#44 - 2012-05-14 16:39:09 UTC
The real fix for the "problem" might be:

1) Boarding a ship in space should start you off with zero capacitor.

2) Or possibly a delay of 5-20 seconds before you can activate modules.

3) Can't do anything at all for 5-20 seconds after boarding.

4) There should be a 5-20 second delay before you can target anything (similar to the decloak delay).

Not being able to target anything for 20 seconds after boarding would some of the current grief play. Starting off with zero capacitor would require the use of cap boosters in order to warp out before the faction navy catches up with you.

Not sure which of those methods would be best.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#45 - 2012-05-14 16:45:39 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?
Do you want these events to take place and why?

And it amazes me how delusional people are, thinking they are making a difference in eve.. and can ransom CCP etc..
Above line mainly aimed at the goons..


HmmhHHHMMMmmmm...
Would it be fair to say that you're asking CCP for "one more nerf"?

MinerBumping.com
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-05-14 18:28:01 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
The real fix for the "problem" might be:

1) Boarding a ship in space should start you off with zero capacitor.

2) Or possibly a delay of 5-20 seconds before you can activate modules.

3) Can't do anything at all for 5-20 seconds after boarding.

4) There should be a 5-20 second delay before you can target anything (similar to the decloak delay).

Not being able to target anything for 20 seconds after boarding would some of the current grief play. Starting off with zero capacitor would require the use of cap boosters in order to warp out before the faction navy catches up with you.

Not sure which of those methods would be best.


because hisec is the only place in the game where people routinely board ships in space

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Kievan Arakyd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-05-14 18:58:55 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?
Do you want these events to take place and why?

And it amazes me how delusional people are, thinking they are making a difference in eve.. and can ransom CCP etc..
Above line mainly aimed at the goons..


HmmhHHHMMMmmmm...


Translated: I fail at this game, please CCP, ruin this emergent gameplay feature because I can't do anything myself.

Got my Dust514 key...
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-05-14 19:28:58 UTC
Orca jetisons ship.
THat is all I had to read, that is not a exploit.

If you want to deal with -10 pilots find a mechanic that deals with them only.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#49 - 2012-05-14 19:53:11 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Orca jetisons ship.
THat is all I had to read, that is not a exploit.

If you want to deal with -10 pilots find a mechanic that deals with them only.

-10s not allowed within Xkm of an Orca. Yes, now you can safeguard your hulks by bunching them near an Orca.

But wait, it's a trap !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#50 - 2012-05-14 19:55:03 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?
Do you want these events to take place and why?

And it amazes me how delusional people are, thinking they are making a difference in eve.. and can ransom CCP etc..
Above line mainly aimed at the goons..


HmmhHHHMMMmmmm...

How do you eject a battleship from an Orca so a -10 can smartbomb a herd of Mackinaws?

How to win EVE
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-05-14 19:59:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
Orca jetisons ship.
THat is all I had to read, that is not a exploit.

If you want to deal with -10 pilots find a mechanic that deals with them only.

-10s not allowed within Xkm of an Orca. Yes, now you can safeguard your hulks by bunching them near an Orca.

But wait, it's a trap !



Mobile POS, encompass the entire belt ?

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#52 - 2012-05-14 20:02:12 UTC
I'm pretty sure every ship for every gank I've done in jita (and nearby systems) undocked from 4-4

nerf jita 4-4!

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#53 - 2012-05-14 20:13:59 UTC
NickyYo,

It's pretty obvious at this point that the Orca is a general support vessel. Using a ship for purposes outside of its intended design is not considered an exploit according to CCP. Take this Iteron V as an example:

Iteron V Takes Down Megathron

Let's also not forget about the infamous Battle Hulk that was able to take down cruisers before CCP nerfed energy vamps.

When Carebears Attack

So far, those players were never banned by CCP and CCP never considered them as exploits.

Adapt or die.

Adapt or Die
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#54 - 2012-05-14 23:24:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Well mad bros,

CCP and a lot of players who are actually contradicting them selves by posting here have said that low sec and null needs more players, killing the carebears is solvIng that problem blah blah.

Well fixing the Orca also fixes that problem, see the irony?
So why you all mad?

Bottom line is this, greifers are like a women they are never happy..

..
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#55 - 2012-05-14 23:39:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
No, for 2 reasons


  • it isn't an exploit
  • If CCP did nerf it, the only thing you'd be able to carry in an orca would be those little dolls from one of the early mission agents.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#56 - 2012-05-14 23:43:58 UTC
We didn't want that sandbox game anyways.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#57 - 2012-05-14 23:44:06 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Well mad bros,

CCP and a lot of players who are actually contradicting them selves by posting here have said that low sec and null needs more players, killing the carebears is solvIng that problem blah blah.

Well fixing the Orca also fixes that problem, see the irony?
So why you all mad?

Bottom line is this, greifers are like a women they are never happy..


Did you read what I just posted?

Adapt or Die
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#58 - 2012-05-14 23:52:59 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
No, for 2 reasons


  • it isn't an exploit
  • If CCP did nerf it, the only thing you'd be able to carry in an orca would be those little dolls from one of the early mission agents.


So you all know i am also a pvper, but i do it in lowsec/wardeck so it is actually challanging and has purpose.

And here is a REASON 3 for you too, Before the Orca was released low sec pvp was much better than it is now, want to know why it isn't anymore? Because CCP gave greifers the ability to carebear pvp; Oh the irony again...

..
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#59 - 2012-05-14 23:57:18 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Before the Orca was released low sec pvp was much better than it is now, want to know why it isn't anymore? Because CCP gave greifers the ability to carebear pvp; Oh the irony again...
…except that the Orca didn't add any new special capabilities to lowsec.
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-05-15 00:01:59 UTC
emergent gameplay in my sandbox!?!?!?!

NOT ON MY WATCH