EVE General Discussion

I agree that it can bee seen as such, but it cannot eliminate what is created by the players without the help of the players who need to see it as an early warning system and act accordingly.

No. I am saying that it moves the lag away from the server onto the client by creating an artificial lag on the client side.

There is not much different if TiDi slows down time or if I go blank for 5 minutes. You will simply not get much done during that time.

"Your request isn't as important, hold tight and make your request later."

Since we're both just saying the same thing over and over I figured I'd save myself some time and link to my post earlier: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1292136#post1292136

How is it creating an artificial lag on the client side? Are you pressing any buttons and it isn't reacting?


You've never blackscreened, ever, have you?


Apparently the node isn't handling the request properly, sounds like something you might want to send in a petition about to see if it's by design (i.e. the server is rejecting that request to focus on what CCP considers the "more important request"), or if it's just an oversight.

Still isn't caused by TiDi, though.

I tried to remove it many time yesterday. It's still there.

Holy cow the trolls are thick in here tonight.

For those of you reading and trying to understand the real difference between the two....

Say you are traveling in low sec, and suddenly TiDi kicks in. Yes it's annoying for the world to slow down when you aren't directly doing anything that might cause it.

But you have to remember, if TiDi wasn't kicking in you would likely not have loaded system. You would have black screened upon jump, and you'd be sitting in your chair wondering if you had crashed or not. You would likely not have been able to log back in, sometimes for hours.

This is the alternative to TiDi, in very real terms.

When lag occurs commands you send to the server become so delayed they often time out or get radically out of sync with other players. When TiDi kicks in, it slows down the world clock on the server so that all of the requests players make via their clients have time to be properly processed.

No one black screens, all your actions happen in the proper sequence with other players actions. The negative effects of lag (crashes, black screens, lost commands, out of sync issues) disappear and are replaced with a slow, orderly game state.

So the next time you experience TiDi and feel like getting upset, just turn off the game for an hour or two.. and realize that this (effectively) would be the alternative at that moment if TiDi hadn't kicked in.

It is not ideal, but it works, and allows enjoyable game play to continue with minor inconvenience while better solutions are being worked on.

This is what a warning system does. Something happens and you get a warning.


An artificially created lag. The responses of your client become slower and slower as TiDi increases.


The difference this makes in terms of success and achievement within the game is hardly different. You can do things during a black screen, too. You can switch to a browser and post on the forum.

That's not lag.



Warping wasn't problem and it didn't take more time than usually. Problem was it took 5 minutes to undock and 2+ minutes to jump to another system.

For example now my ship has been waiting 5+ minutes to undock. Could I at least get that slow motion video you guys are talking about. Would be great.

Not much of an early warning system.


Nope. That's not lag.