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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#81 - 2012-05-13 08:54:01 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:


Tippia wrote:
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Who likes to play when everything slows down?
Anyone who's ever been in a big fleet fight. It's very very nice.

Again, I cannot agree with an idiotic opinion. You may like it, but you are not anyone.





Compared to the previous alternative merely "slowed down" is incredibly much better.

Not that you care because you're just amusing yourself with your usual contrarian bullshit.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-05-13 08:55:26 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Tippia wrote:
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Who likes to play when everything slows down?
Anyone who's ever been in a big fleet fight. It's very very nice.

Again, I cannot agree with an idiotic opinion. You may like it, but you are not anyone.

Have you even been outside of hisec?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-05-13 08:55:34 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Nope. That's not lag. Lag is a delay in response from you press a button till it does something.

Same thing, different description.


You sir... are an idiot and let me help explain to you why you're an idiot.

Lag is when something doesn't keep pace. It falls behind.

By slowing the world down in EVE, it allows for everything to keep pace, thus, removing lag. TiDi slows the clock of the server and allows for millions of requests (jump/dock/warp/etc.) to keep pace with the with the maximum speed of the node..

As it has already been explained, but you refuse to listen, it is currently not possible to predict this behavior in EVE.

You did not black screen, the server stayed alive and you were still capable of warping to gates, completing a jump and dock effectively. Your request got through, you should be thankful.

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CCP Please Implement
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-05-13 08:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Did it start undocking the second you hit undock? Yes? Then it responded in a timely fashion.


After clicking Undock I had to wait 5 minutes before my ship was outside of station before that I couldn't do anything. Well, spin my ship in hangar but that's it.

Same thing with jumping:
Jump -> system doesn't change and I get 160+ second coundown -> Jumping -> Jumping? -> after countdown reaches 0 my ship finally gets to next system. Yay!?
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-05-13 08:57:34 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Did it start undocking the second you hit undock? Yes? Then it responded in a timely fashion.


After clicking Undock I had to wait 5 minutes before my ship was outside of station before that I couldn't do anything. Well, spin my ship in hangar but that's it.


But the undock process had commenced right? The UI acknowledged you had pressed the button?
TWHC Assistant
#86 - 2012-05-13 08:57:54 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Compared to the previous alternative merely "slowed down" is incredibly much better.

Not that you care because you're just amusing yourself with your usual contrarian bullshit.

That is not the point. I am still comparing it to no lag at all. You want to compare it to before TiDi? Do it, but it is irrelevant for how TiDi works. I am not deny its usefulness. I said I see it as a work-around. You might want to reread the thread before you start spitting your hate over it.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#87 - 2012-05-13 08:59:12 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Compared to the previous alternative merely "slowed down" is incredibly much better.

Not that you care because you're just amusing yourself with your usual contrarian bullshit.

That is not the point. I am still comparing it to no lag at all. You want to compare it to before TiDi? Do it, but it is irrelevant for how TiDi works. I am not deny its usefulness. I said I see it as a work-around. You might want to reread the thread before you start spitting your hate over it.


Until you learn what lag means there's really no point in talking to you. /thread.
TWHC Assistant
#88 - 2012-05-13 09:00:28 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
You sir... are an idiot and let me help explain to you why you're an idiot.

Thanks, but no thanks.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#89 - 2012-05-13 09:00:55 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Because how the lag presents itself does not matter to me.
Then you should stop using that word, because it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Quote:
I have no argument.
Obviously. That's why you have to fall back on ad hominems so often.
Quote:
Again, I cannot agree with an idiotic opinion. You may like it, but you are not anyone.
So you think it's idiotic to be able to play the game. I take it you think it's smart to crash to the desktop? The simple fact remains: anyone who actually has to deal with TiDi absolutely loves it over the alternative. That's why it has had such a universally positive response.

Again, I understand that you actually agree with me but cannot admit this, and instead have to resort to ad hominems.

Quote:
Stop derailing the question.
I'm not. I'm saying your question is a false dichotomy. I then answer it. The answer remains the same: it doesn't matter in a dynamic environment.

Repeating a false dichotomy doesn't make it any less false. Repeating a question that has been answered will not yield a different answer.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2012-05-13 09:01:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Compared to the previous alternative merely "slowed down" is incredibly much better.

Not that you care because you're just amusing yourself with your usual contrarian bullshit.

That is not the point. I am still comparing it to no lag at all. You want to compare it to before TiDi? Do it, but it is irrelevant for how TiDi works. I am not deny its usefulness. I said I see it as a work-around. You might want to reread the thread before you start spitting your hate over it.

Òf course it's a workaround. Why the **** do you think we're talking about before TiDi? We talk about before TiDi because it's a workaround to avoid the problems we had before TiDi, where things didn't degrade gracefully at all.

TiDi, the thing you're bitching and moaning up a storm about, is still reducing the lag you experience.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2012-05-13 09:02:16 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Zagdul wrote:
You sir... are an idiot and let me help explain to you why you're an idiot.

Thanks, but no thanks.


Ignorance is bliss... right?

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Li Charen-Teng
#92 - 2012-05-13 09:02:59 UTC
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TWHC Assistant
#93 - 2012-05-13 09:03:45 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Òf course it's a workaround. ...

Thank you.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#94 - 2012-05-13 09:04:14 UTC
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
But the undock process had commenced right? The UI acknowledged you had pressed the button?


Again. What lag is if it's not client or server failing to respond?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#95 - 2012-05-13 09:04:52 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
That is not the point.
It is the entire point. TiDi means you are just experiencing a slow-down rather than the often disastrous effects of high lag.

Quote:
I am still comparing it to no lag at all.
…which is retarded since the alternative to TiDi isn't “no lag” — it's “black screen and crash to login screen”.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-05-13 09:05:18 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Òf course it's a workaround. ...

Thank you.

Which is reducing or eliminating the lag you're experiencing.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
TWHC Assistant
#97 - 2012-05-13 09:06:15 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Ignorance is bliss... right?

What is the alternative? Listening to insults from players who have not yet fully grasped what I am talking about and are only able to understand me after they spewed out their insults only to row back?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#98 - 2012-05-13 09:07:39 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
What is the alternative?
Shutting up, listening, and learning how the game actually works from those who have grasped what is going on.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2012-05-13 09:07:52 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Zagdul wrote:
Ignorance is bliss... right?

What is the alternative? Listening to insults from players who have not yet fully grasped what I am talking about and are only able to understand me after they spewed out their insults only to row back?

You're saying "tidi causes lag", we're saying you're wrong.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-05-13 09:09:51 UTC
Everytime I tried to remove one storyline mission from journal I had to wait but nothing ever happened. All I got was "Soul-crushing lag" popup.