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EvE Online, The Antisocial MMO

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#141 - 2012-05-13 03:14:24 UTC
In wormholes, no one can hear you scream.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#142 - 2012-05-13 03:38:41 UTC
John Schlong wrote:

I'm not here to "win", you are.

I'm here to bring more attention to a problem with eve and have a civilized discussion about it.


Odd that so many others don't see a problem, only a few like you that thing they should be bubble wrapped and don't quite seem to get the idea of this game being a sandbox. And has been mentioned by others in this thread, you don't seem to wish to take any advice, spurning it in the same way as someone telling you to GTFO. Your choice, your loss. We've seen others like you before, we'll probably see others after you. It's always the same.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Kievan Arakyd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2012-05-13 03:43:14 UTC
John Schlong wrote:
I'm sure someone is going to call me a newbie whiner that should go back to WoW for posting this, but here goes.

EVE online puts a HUGE emphasis on joining a corp and interacting with others, yet my 2 months of experience playing the game and reading the forums have shown me that this game is mostly comprised of unfriendly bigoted people who would rather insult you or pod you than actually be nice to you.

No wonder CCP thinks that "what goonswarm wants" is the same as "what the player-base wants": the only players left on EVE are either goonswarm members, or newbies. All the old players have given up in disgust after loosing 2 plexes worth of ship, fittings and implants to a single ganker in a 7 mil (fully reimbursed) ship

It really comes down to this, do you want eve to grow and add more players? or do you want eve to belong to goonswarm? you can't have both. Unless people stand up and say "the goons do not represent me", this is going to turn into GooN Online instead of EvE Online. All the easy care-bear targets will be gone, and the only players left will be PvPers (just like lowsec/nullsec is now)

By invading highsec, goonswarm destroys highsec. I'm sure the "goal" (if there was one) was to drive more players to lowsec, but they really just drove highsec players off the game entirely

I now look forward to the 4 pages of goonswarm members insulting me and the week of random people following me around in-game stealing my loot and ganking me, just for speaking my mind.


Acquire Friends, Quit Dying.

Got my Dust514 key...

Powers Sa
#144 - 2012-05-13 04:00:08 UTC
Paid two visits to highsec today, The Mittani sends his regards~
Two towers are dead.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#145 - 2012-05-13 04:06:52 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Paid two visits to highsec today, The Mittani sends his regards~
Two towers are dead.

Medium tower, medium regards.

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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2012-05-13 06:02:21 UTC
Eve is the most social of all the MMO's .

The very fact that eve does not require you to be sociable underscores this .

You can fly through space and ignore every body (untill you screw up but hey you dont have to talk to em as they blow you up)

You can ignore the in game missioning channel, the live event channel, and the exploration channel oH! and of course the always lively recruiting channel .

don't need to talk to those people any how.

No need to participate in eve uni, agony unleashed, or red vs blue . as it is a worthless endeavor because all these people do is play solo in their pods all day long.

Forget about the 10's of thousands of player corps out their who do nothing but sit in their pods doing nothing all day .

Never mind all the marketing channels where people just idle and do not participate with one another in one of the most open markets in any MMO.

and that lovely lil ship your in just magically appeared in the game through the good ship fairy.

That whole goon thing is bunch of solo pod people , who individually do nothing but ensure that there is thousands of posts on their non social endeavors.

and all the goons control new eden because there is no social people out in null doing things like being sociable producing sociable events that prevent the goons from being non sociable .

All those wing commander skills and leadership skills are their just to get pretty certificates which have no use in letting anti social people participate in massive anti social events that take place through the whole of eve.

i guess you failed it OP ...
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#147 - 2012-05-13 07:21:28 UTC
You only succeed with friends in this game.

.

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#148 - 2012-05-13 07:31:34 UTC
Threadnaught averted. The forums are safe once again!
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#149 - 2012-05-13 07:34:31 UTC
Roime wrote:
You only succeed with friends in this game.


Hegemony

Collectivism

Communist Theory
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#150 - 2012-05-13 08:09:19 UTC
John Schlong wrote:
I'm sure someone is going to call me a newbie whiner that should go back to WoW for posting this, but here goes.

EVE online puts a HUGE emphasis on joining a corp and interacting with others, yet my 2 months of experience playing the game and reading the forums have shown me that this game is mostly comprised of unfriendly bigoted people who would rather insult you or pod you than actually be nice to you.

No wonder CCP thinks that "what goonswarm wants" is the same as "what the player-base wants": the only players left on EVE are either goonswarm members, or newbies. All the old players have given up in disgust after loosing 2 plexes worth of ship, fittings and implants to a single ganker in a 7 mil (fully reimbursed) ship

It really comes down to this, do you want eve to grow and add more players? or do you want eve to belong to goonswarm? you can't have both. Unless people stand up and say "the goons do not represent me", this is going to turn into GooN Online instead of EvE Online. All the easy care-bear targets will be gone, and the only players left will be PvPers (just like lowsec/nullsec is now)

By invading highsec, goonswarm destroys highsec. I'm sure the "goal" (if there was one) was to drive more players to lowsec, but they really just drove highsec players off the game entirely

I now look forward to the 4 pages of goonswarm members insulting me and the week of random people following me around in-game stealing my loot and ganking me, just for speaking my mind.


I'm sorry you've had bad luck with the corps you're joined. All I can say is that I've had very much the opposite experience, and that pretty much all the corps and alliances I've been in have all been delighted to see another active, team-orientated, self-reliant member join.

Whhat was their problem with you? Were you too team-orientated?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#151 - 2012-05-13 08:10:11 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Roime wrote:
You only succeed with friends in this game.


Hegemony

Collectivism

Communist Theory


Aspergers

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#152 - 2012-05-13 08:19:32 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Roime wrote:
You only succeed with friends in this game.


Hegemony

Collectivism

Communist Theory


Collectivism is pretty appropriate, teaming up and working towards a common goal really helps, but I really struggle to see how hegemony or communism could be related to EVE at all.

.

Shian Yang
#153 - 2012-05-13 08:26:37 UTC
John Schlong wrote:
EVE online puts a HUGE emphasis on joining a corp and interacting with others, yet my 2 months of experience playing the game and reading the forums have shown me that this game is mostly comprised of unfriendly bigoted people who would rather insult you or pod you than actually be nice to you.


Greetings capsuleer ... Schlong,

With such a choice of name I'm hardly surprised people are mean to you. Is equating yourself with a phallus not the equivalent of putting a "kick me" sign on your back yourself?

As to the rest of your points. New Eden is a cold and hard place, especially if you choose to be a complete lone wolf. You need to be experienced, to understand how things work before you can realistically take on the role of a lone pilot. You, with barely two months of experience, are still very much wet behind the ears. Give yourself some time to understand how New Eden operates, the distinct dynamics and you will come to appreciate it.

All of it, including the Goonswarm Federation. They are a group of capsuleers that excel at New Eden. It's a shame you had to catch them at the peak of Burn Jita and Hulkageddon, but then, how can you be a hero if there are no villains in our universe?

Regards,

Shian Yang
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#154 - 2012-05-13 08:35:00 UTC
Roime wrote:
Skydell wrote:
Roime wrote:
You only succeed with friends in this game.


Hegemony

Collectivism

Communist Theory


Collectivism is pretty appropriate, teaming up and working towards a common goal really helps, but I really struggle to see how hegemony or communism could be related to EVE at all.



Collectivism through communism, held together by Hegemony.

Communism is an ideal that opposes autocratic rule and class based society but all communism creates autocracy and you either conform or you become the valueless bottom rung in the ladder. Hegemony occurs throughout EVE. See any NAP where a single alliance controls the wealth and the pets are allowed to be there under the umbrella.

It all serves to destroy individual identity and focus on the machine. You become a tool, convinced you are serving a greater purpose when all you are really doing is working for free.
Zalasastra
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2012-05-13 08:40:03 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


That is the most probable diagnosis in his case, i know this for a fact.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#156 - 2012-05-13 08:55:56 UTC
Zalasastra wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


That is the most probable diagnosis in his case, i know this for a fact.


And that's what you should conclude because
A: You won't convince me this is a swell place to make friends
B: MMO's are about groupie, groupie gang bangs
C: I don't belong here because I didn't meet your criteria
D: I have a clinical disease because I don't know you or want to.

I'm in EVE because I pay for it and the last time I checked, you don't work for CCP so kiss my pale white Assperger
Sir Asterix
Doomheim
#157 - 2012-05-13 09:02:31 UTC
John Schlong their are good corps out their with good people in. The problem is finding them as they tend to be invite only and keep themselves very much to themselves. This is due to the fact that as you said, this game is mostly comprised of unfriendly bigoted people who would rather insult you or pod you than actually be nice to you I would like to add to that, the group of players that what to be your best friend in eve so they can steal your processions, your corp mates processions and your corps processions.

Zalasastra
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#158 - 2012-05-13 09:05:43 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Zalasastra wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


That is the most probable diagnosis in his case, i know this for a fact.


And that's what you should conclude because
A: You won't convince me this is a swell place to make friends
B: MMO's are about groupie, groupie gang bangs
C: I don't belong here because I didn't meet your criteria
D: I have a clinical disease because I don't know you or want to.

I'm in EVE because I pay for it and the last time I checked, you don't work for CCP so kiss my pale white Assperger


I fail to see how a simple confirmation of the underlying reason for HIS complaining warrants you spouting your "Assperger" hate speech at me troll.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#159 - 2012-05-13 09:19:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Ocih wrote:


Collectivism through communism, held together by Hegemony.

Communism is an ideal that opposes autocratic rule and class based society but all communism creates autocracy and you either conform or you become the valueless bottom rung in the ladder. Hegemony occurs throughout EVE. See any NAP where a single alliance controls the wealth and the pets are allowed to be there under the umbrella.

It all serves to destroy individual identity and focus on the machine. You become a tool, convinced you are serving a greater purpose when all you are really doing is working for free.


Fairly accurate description of the modern American society.

My corp has zero tax, we own our assets together, most members are directors, and we define success by achieving the goals we set ourselves.

That said, in every functional organisation, especially ones in the fields of violence and team sports, succeeding requires individuals to give up some of their identity and selfishness temporarily to make the machine work.

If that destroys your identity, it was too weak in the first place.

.

Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2012-05-13 10:39:30 UTC
John Schlong wrote:

If your corp has a war dec on it, then atleast you know that someone actively wants to kill you, and you can take precautions (spend isk on players to guard your ships and operations or something).

The alternative is to fit every ship you fly as if you were going into lowsec, all the time, for the once-every-three-weeks chance that someone might try to attack you. A ship scanner, warp stabilizer, and cloaking device aren't very useful in PvE missions, yet that seems to be the suggested course of action.


Eh? All you need is a decent buffer tank to prevent opportunistic ganking, and maybe an eye on the D-Scan for a flock of incoming tornadoes if you're REALLY paranoid.