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CCP time to fix the orca exploit
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Joseph Sulaco
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-05-13 06:04:26 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Sentinel Smith wrote:
CCP doesn't want to kill Burn Jita or Hulkageddon. Hulkageddon is an almost yearly promise of news coverage, without them needing to take any actions..


It does provide news, but it is also a vicious cycle for suscriptions.

Players will leave, players will join and then those players will leave.. They will never truly build a solid subscription base at this rate.


There is literally no such thing as a "solid subscription base" for any MMO. People join and leave all the time and player made events actually bring subscriptions more often than lose them.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#22 - 2012-05-13 06:21:15 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..


ITT someone who doesn't play the game complaining about how the game is played.
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-05-13 06:27:07 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic

Because things are never used for something other than what they were originally built for...Roll

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-05-13 06:33:56 UTC
If pirates want to do that all day long, they can. The worst it does is remove consequences for being under -4.5 in any hisec system.
"If."
Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#25 - 2012-05-13 06:45:16 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..



Thanks for helping pay the bills
Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-13 06:48:37 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
SlapNuts wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?



WHo said this is an exploit?


I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..



If you look at the guys pic....tell me does he have the WTF look like he got a suprise from behind or is it the WTF my hulk popped for no reason or does he just look constipated?
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-05-13 07:16:17 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..

Hey man,me too. Can I get into your corp? M so :sadface: when people call me an NPC alt.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#28 - 2012-05-13 09:22:49 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not!

The Rorqual's ship maint will only hold "Industrial" ships, Barge and hauler hulls. This mechanic existed before the Orca of course and therefore could have been used for the Orca without difficulty.
The fact that it wasn't is evidence that the Orca was intended to carry other types of ships, and given the calls for means by which to move rigged vessels this makes perfect sense.

Industrialism, after all, is not restricted to mining... Think of all the industrial effort which goes into filling an Orca's maint bay with Thrashers.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-05-13 09:33:28 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Where in the ship description does it say ship can be used to dump ships in space for players to use..

The ships core functionality is to provide bonuses and store ore..

CCP was lazy on this one, create a new ship model and used an existing function in the code that are used for carriers cargo space. Is the Orca a miniature carrier? I think not!


There are no mention in the description that i can shoot other players as well with my hurricane. Does that mean i'm exploiting the game somehow? Oh my. What have i done :(

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#30 - 2012-05-13 09:39:40 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
Industrialism, after all, is not restricted to mining... Think of all the industrial effort which goes into filling an Orca's maint bay with Thrashers.
…and let's not forget. Creating a demand for your goods is the best industrial effort of all. Blink
killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-05-13 09:41:17 UTC
i cant ever see ccp fixing this 'ingenious use of mechanics' because it isn't broken

but if they do then pilots will only adapt like they always have

next they will be spewing out of high sec worm holes



:)
Francisco Bizzaro
#32 - 2012-05-13 09:43:53 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

You lost me at the first line. Where do we have any indication that CCP want to kill these things?

If they did, they have many options at their disposal. But they have chosen not to apply them. Why do they need yet another solution to something they don't regard as a problem?
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#33 - 2012-05-13 09:44:28 UTC
NickyYo wrote:

I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..


This quote right here shows how much you don't understand EVE and how the playerbase works.
CCP give us the tools for EVE, they create the world, we inhabit it.

There are thousands of scenarios where something was meant for something but became to be used entirely different from what CCP believed it would be used for.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#34 - 2012-05-13 10:44:30 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
SlapNuts wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?



WHo said this is an exploit?


I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..


Orca is meant for mining, not stealth hauling (which is what the majority of all Orca's are used for).

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#35 - 2012-05-13 10:52:28 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..


At least you can't make a mess of the skill training, or can you?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#36 - 2012-05-13 10:53:33 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
SlapNuts wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

IdeaIt's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?



WHo said this is an exploit?


I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..


Orca is meant for mining, not stealth hauling (which is what the majority of all Orca's are used for).


You sure it's the majority?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#37 - 2012-05-13 10:58:59 UTC
The Orca is designed as a general support ship, wich is a role it performs greatly. It supports miners, haulers, pirates, gankers, missioneers, WH-residents, POS-operators etc.
I daresay it's one of the few ships that almost anyone in eve can use if (s)he's got the skills trained for it. CCP got this ship right, allowing it to be useful for a multitude of careerchoices. The tradeoff is the rather intensive skilltraining in area's not everyone is inetrested in.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-05-13 11:47:00 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..


ITT someone who doesn't play the game complaining about how the game is played.



And how much and where do you play the game? Lol

brb
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#39 - 2012-05-13 11:51:09 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Orca is meant for mining, not stealth hauling (which is what the majority of all Orca's are used for).
Nah. The Orca is meant for a crapton of things — pretty much any form of “haul stuff” (besides trucking around outpost eggs) and some forms of fleet support.

As it happens, stealth hauling falls squarely within that purpose.
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#40 - 2012-05-13 11:59:22 UTC
daddys helper wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Anyway what do i care, i'm only active to train skills and post on these forums..


I sure hope you're better at training skills than you are at posting


Even if that was the case i can wager that he always forget to press the apply button Big smile.