Ships & Modules

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For now I will say, put projectiles on the Myrm, and save up for a Machariel.

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First of all i will assume you're a new player, maybe with some money to burn on plexes.

I will not be posting fit or specific tips now (going to bed and cant be arsed)and i see you dont really get the general situation but i'll tell you something.

And astarte and a mach have completely different requirements: one blasters the other autocannons, they're are 2 differents types of weapons.
Training for a decent mach takes about 5 months (t2 large auto,gunnery skills, navigation skills, fitting skills,shield skills,overheat and boosters etc.)
An astarte a bit less (due to medium weapons).

Gallente use, in general, armor tank (buffer or active the skills are similiar) while the mach uses shields (usually).

If you want the mach forget about hybrids and gallente ships and armor and just train projectiles t2 and all minmatar support skills.



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im new but i have done extensive reading about the mechanics of the game and im going to refine my questions:

1.) is the machariel viable in player vs player combat. and if so what in your opinion is better for it, armor tanking or shield tanking, passive or active.
2.)would the arstarte be a better option for pvp in small gangs or solo combat?

just to clear things up, i understand racial differences, signature radius, targetting/tracking speed and inertia modifiers and stuff like that. i know how much of the game works i just want some answers from more experienced players, possibly ones who have used the ships that im referencing

thank you. I will attempt to fully punctuate this last question or you.

why would you recommend an active shield tank? is that your preference, or is there a reason that you consider it to be superior than other forms of tanking? would an armor tank be as useful, because that's what i have more experience with.

i'm sorry that my punctuation is lacking in regards to your standards. i assure you, this thread is the first complaint i have received for punctuation.

On a Machariel? Yeah, you definitely want a shield tank. A mission-fit Machariel can and should dedicate at least six slots to damage, whether that's gyros (at least 3), tracking mods, or rigs. Eight slots isn't really overkill. It's much easier to do this with shields.

Furthermore, shields have a better burst tank -- which is why pretty much all high end mission ships use them. You only have to tank for brief spurts, but you can tank hard for that time. Armor is great for sustained, but there's no reason for that if you kill as fast as you should.

well played fine sir, but if i feel the need to post with good grammar then i will. if i decide otherwise, feel free to ignore it.

Read up on Active vs. Passive/Buffer Tanks. It seems you missed these concepts in your extensive research.

Also, while I'm sure you can blow plenty of cash on this with mommy's credit card, I would suggest starting with more realistic goals for PVP. A 1 bil mach might be a bit painful to lose.

You'll want them both anyway, sooner or later. A somewhat useful t2 tank only takes about two weeks training each. That's not much time really, considering the total training time for a mach.

You seem to have a lot of isk to lose, so get into a cane, which can be fitted in a myriad of ways, including different shield and armor tanking setups, go out into deep and dangerous space and find out what suits you best.

Do not put any expensive implants in your head. Rather use Estel Arador's corp services to get some clones before boarding.

Check out this thread for Myrm fits. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1201671#post1201671

Fly the same fit in PVE, so you learn to handle it. Active tanking drone boat has more buttons to be pushed, more meters that need attention. Treat the rats like they were (really stupid) players, and you get the most out of NPCing. Train Thermodynamics and push the fit, you have to know it's limits. Get out of hisec as soon as possible.

You don't need to worry about flying a faction battleship for at minimum six months (I'd say a year), so take it easy and learn the basics while you train the skills.

Serious post:

1. Setup a singularity client.
2. Buy the biggest ship you can fly (don't fit it) fly to combat area and get ganked.
3. Use insurance proceeds to buy ten myrms and fits.
4. Get them all blown up, but take notes on what went well, and what didn't.
5. Determine if greatest improvement will come from changing fit, ship, or play style.
6. Implement change
7. Buy ten more ships plus fits
8. Repeat steps 4-7 until satisfied with PvP ability.

No cost to you, all learning is done on Test server. Most TQ pilots learn the expensive way and it shows. No worries though, more kills for you.

-DT