EVE General Discussion

Aside from the random crap the OP spewed I have to agree that eve is a pretty anti-social in nature. The only activity that really takes more then one person after you wrack up some SP is missions, WH space, large plex sites, and of course 0.0 pvp. Most of the time when I am on (this is my alt btw, main is in apoc-legion) I am solo unless in a fleet.

Eve needs larger venues like incursions that force players to work together. It really is not a socially engaging game other then relaxing in corp/alliance TS.

Edit for a typo.

Go take hold of a system in 0.0 and keep it defended solo.

It seems to me you dont get what the nature of eve is.

Eve pve should be improved, nobodies argue; eve however is pvp at its soul.

It's Eve Online, love or hate it hey it's your 15 bucks. You are free to spend it elsewhere.

I'll admit I havent been playing Eve the last few days... I... um... bought MineCraft and holy deepfried jack russel terrier in a sesame seed bun with all the trimmings, it's addictive!

Oh and edit: I've renamed the Creepers as Goons so at least it's Eve-like with the threat of getting attacked while mining, right, right!?

I'm beginning to think that maybe I don't really understand the nature of eve, like you say.

unfortunately that would also mean that the person who got me into eve (who has been playing 2006 and has been showing me how to play) doesn't really understand the game either. He has been able to play solo for years and make more than enough isk to buy a plex each month and play for free. It's only in the last few months that solo play has gotten harder.

No, this is absolutely wrong.

a) Solo players have always been the small rodent getting tossed around by cats
b) It hasn't gotten any harder

I swear, I read this same thread last year..

anyway.... lets clear up a few things.

~ Your name is schlong; you're in a Corp and presumably not an alt, and your name is schlong. That doesn't speak well for you. If you were an obvious alt troll, things would be different. I'm not sure what it says about you in this case.

~ You started this thread on a flawed premise. You went in with a number of very obvious assumptions, and proceeded to make yourself look like a tool by stating them as unrefutable facts.

You'll notice my initial response reflected that. I generally give people some room when they post about difficulties adapting to EVE, but in your case I just went 'whatever'. In your response posts I didn't see much if any change to this attitude and I still haven't; you appear very narrow minded and have an atypical troll-like disposition.

~ Goons are an Alliance. They take pride in being infamous and posting on the forums in a sometimes trollish fashion, but generally only if it suits them or the poster they are responding to appears to be a bit clueless. Actually, they are some of the most informed and reasonable people in the game that post here.

~ You clearly don't understand the game and make some clear misconceptions to how things work. If you are indeed new, then a certain amount of that is acceptable and even understandable, but it doesn't mean you should just ignore other players advice or people correcting your misconceptions. If you do that, you lose all credibility whatsoever and with that the tolerance of players such as myself. I'm stretching my tolerance out here; you actually moved past it on your first post.

The game is what it is. Don't expect it to change and learn to adapt to it, and adapt to it again when changes are made somewhere that affects you. Every player has to at some point. This is not half a dozen games I don't care to mention or play.

~ Own up. Admit you made a mistake and actually invest the time to find out where. EVE is not what you seem to think it is or say it is and neither are the majority of the player base you see here on the forums. You subscribe to absolute tripe the likes of which some other players have posted here who offer similar observations to yourself without really caring that they are incorrect or skewed to a perspective that EVE should be a particular way.

~ Not everybody who posts against your ideas is entirely right. Some have biases towards a particular play style and others just do it to get on your nerves. Mostly though, they are trying to get you to see that attacking game mechancis or the 'sandbox' is only going to ruin the game. EVE is about adaption, not making the game adapt to your playstyle, and not about making every other player adapt to those core mechancis changes for your sake alone.

~ There is a middle ground. EVE is actually close to it already, though slightly skewed in the favor of the gankers. You can still work around that. Most of it is just poor mechancis and balance issues. Those are being changed as we speak and we've yet to see where it will go. It will be either better or worse, and that will depend on exactly which part of it you are looking at.

~ No game with a PvP element that is multiplayer and not 'just a First Person Shooter' is going to have a perfect balance between industry and PvP and all the activites in between.

Good?

I am a 0.0 player who has been playing for almost 5 years.
I am not a goon.
I carebear in 0.0 frequently.
I almost quit in 2011 with the supposed transition to space barbies.
I love the reinvigorated hard nosed space is harsh attitude that CCP are fostering.

There you go OP I am the complete contradiction of your opinions, except I am not opinion I am a reality.

There is so much wrong with the OP's ideas here there is no point in even trying...

QFT

Had to be said again