Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What if they had a bonus to drone damage and HP while assigned to the ship? So if everyone in the fleet assigned drones, then all the drones get the bonus.

These ships could also have a low scan resolution so that they can target quickly and a high sensor strength so that they are somewhat hard to jam.

EDIT: Also, what is it about fighters that makes them a "capital thing"? I just wonder if fighters continue to be relegated to low/null sec, and an Escort Carrier has many fewer than a carrier, I don't see how it would be unbalanced. But as I have said, I am not a carrier pilot so perhaps I am missing something.

The problem with giving them fighters is the amount of damage fighters can dish out. This would make the ship provide more DPS than it should and it would cease to be simply a "subcap support ship." It would be a subcap support ship with considerable damage as well.

Well a Dragonfly has the following in damage:

50 Kinetic, 25 Thermal. It has a damage modifier of 4.25. and a rate of fire of 6.38 sec.

With drone interfacing 5, the damage modifier is doubled to 8.5x

Each level of fighters increases the damage modifier by 20% as well so with fighters 5 you would have a damage modifier of 12.75.

So each fighter would do 75*12.75=956 damage.

That divided by 6.38 would give 149.8 DPS. Call it 150DPS per fighter.

So a single flight of five would give you 750 DPS before resists.

That is worse than many BS. Even a full carrier load of fighters doesn't do that much damage. Unless I am goofing up the math.

I guess I must be missing something since this doesn't seem to be great damage even for a carrier.

I didn't want it to be a fighter boat at all since they're so large, and this ship being a bs class ship shouldn't have the capacity to be able to hold them.

My suggestion was 5 high slots, and able to fit 1 drone control unit per level.

With a full fleet of 10 heavy drones it would have 750-1k dps.
With the possible option of logistics and/or command modules.

The reason why I suggest it to be this way is so that it doesn't get relatively high drone dps while still having access to high slots for utility.
Giving it only 5 high slots means that it has to choose between more drones, utility, or command. While it would be able to mix and match, it wouldn't be a HIGHLY effective mix and match.

I would also give it enough drone capacity to fit a good amount of drones.

To keep these ships relatively limited, I would only give them damage bonuses for racial drones, and only bonuses towards racial ewar drones such as gallente with damp drones, caldari with jam drones, amarr with cap drones, and minmatar with whatever the hell they use.

Perhaps also give them some bonuses towards logistics drones, but only shield OR armor, and not both.

• 10% Bonus to drone damage while assigned, per level
• 10% Bonus to Drone HP while assigned, per level.

And I say allow +1 drone per level.

As for fighters, they are NOT that large (a Einherji is 23m long) they just take lots of drone bay space. Also, if fighters are restricted in which security systems they can be used then there is no worry about them being used in high sec. I could still support being able to have 5 fighters usable in null sec in the same way carriers are able to use them, only limited to 5 instead of 10+.

IS that something intrinsic to fighters or to carriers?

Perhaps the Escort Carrier could have in the description that it lacks the ability to link to fighters in warp and therefore fighters cannot leave the control range of the carrier. So it would only provide the fighters on grid.

EDIT: Also, why is that such a big deal? If you are separating your forces and you are in a ship that is easy to scan down, you are asking to get your ass kicked. I guess if they had the escort carrier cloaked it would make a difference, but maybe that is an issue with capital mechanics too....

I guess that is true. The idea was to have something that can play in all game plays of eve. So if it can use drones in high sec it can be used there as a BS sized drone boat. In FW it could provide drone buffing and logistics support with some DPS on the side. In Low sec it could be used as a BS sized support with some DPS. In null it is truly a light carrier, less expensive, more forgiving, less impact, more mobile and able to field fighters so that when you are in a big fleet fight, they are available to add their fighters to the fight without being the actual carriers that jump in and are committed due to their size and immobility.

I can't see this ship being useful in all of those gameplay styles without allowing for marginal use of fighters.

Thank you, since you seem to be into WH stuff, what size corp hanger would be enough to fit that role but not so much that it is OP?

Sounds good.

I am a simple gamer.

Just make it look cool and big and a suitable choice for overcompensation with lots of pretty blinkies and details and spinny bits.

I'll be happy.