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Cheap pvp rifter questions
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Skorpynekomimi
#1 - 2012-05-12 09:18:51 UTC
So, I'm planning to fit out a load of rifters to go learn pvp in, but I have a few questions about fitting.

- What size ACs? 150mm or 200mm?

- Armour or shield?

- Which ammo is best?

Economic PVP
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#2 - 2012-05-12 10:29:51 UTC
You should google "The Rifter Guide" by Wensley. All your questions are answered there
Skorpynekomimi
#3 - 2012-05-12 10:31:58 UTC
No, they aren't. I've read it, and still have questions. Such as 'how the hell do I get hold of enough meta-level autocannons'?

Economic PVP
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2012-05-12 10:37:34 UTC
Karak Bol wrote:
You should google "The Rifter Guide" by Wensley. All your questions are answered there


This.

But in short:
- shield is less cookie than armor so it's a little surprise factor which can be of help
- best ammo is that one that shoots just through resist hole so it completely depends what ship you shooting at
- usually you fit biggest gunz you can but you have to take into account things like tracking, optimals, falloff. so once again - it all depends.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#5 - 2012-05-12 10:39:49 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
No, they aren't. I've read it, and still have questions. Such as 'how the hell do I get hold of enough meta-level autocannons'?


Well, usually I buy bunch of t2 gunz at nearest trade hub. I assume you can fit t2 gunz, tank/gank mods...

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Skorpynekomimi
#6 - 2012-05-12 10:44:55 UTC
I can fit them, but they're more isk than I'd like to spend on something that's just gonna end up a cloud of expanding dust in a minute or so from when I find someone to fight.

Maybe when I have a handle on the basic tactics, I'll be able to justify 10mil+ fits, but I'm not gonna throw that much into my first few rifters.

Economic PVP
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2012-05-12 10:59:28 UTC
Adjust the meta-level of the guns to your wallet, as you will be losing these Rifters. If you're having problems with supply, go to a Minmatar trade hub.

As for tank, in my opinion armor works better with lower skills because of the web, 150s are what I roll with but really whatever allows you to fit a plate, 200mm minimum.
Skorpynekomimi
#8 - 2012-05-12 14:19:20 UTC
Skills aren't an issue so much. I'm experienced with PvE already, and have skills for that. The support and tank skills are much the same.

And a plate? I was thinking DCU2 and EANM. Straight resists to save mass.

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Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-12 14:54:08 UTC
1. build several setups from battleclinic
2. Come to amamake 3-1 belt, ask for solo pvp
3. pvp heretic member
4. ?????
5. start spamming warp button to save pod
Boomhaur
#10 - 2012-05-12 22:37:21 UTC
Back when I did it, I used whatever I could get my greedy hands on. Though I think I used to try to use 125 or 150mm more often than the 200, but that was just me. Experiment on your targets see what you like best.

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Abbadon21
Ignotis Imperium
Usurper.
#11 - 2012-05-13 00:25:42 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
So, I'm planning to fit out a load of rifters to go learn pvp in, but I have a few questions about fitting.

- What size ACs? 150mm or 200mm?

- Armour or shield?

- Which ammo is best?


AC Size depends on fitting constraints and expected targets.

I prefer Shield for the speed and DPS, however the standard is Armor.

Best ammo is that which your opponent has the weakest resists to. Do some research, check info on his ship before fighting, etc.

GL... Rifter is a great ship

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Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-13 02:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Darthewok
[Rifter, Buffer]
Emergency Damage Control I
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]

4527 EHP, 149 DPS, 1048m/s, web&scram

[Rifter, Repper]
Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Small Armor Repairer II

Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]

3729 EHP & Small Armor Repper, 149 DPS, 1053m/s, web&scram

This is about as far as you can take the Rifter frame without going faction/deadspace.
Choice between the first and second fit is whether you prefer extra buffer HP or a repper.
If you want cheaper, just substitute T1 for the T2 guns.

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Smegma Cheesedog
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-06-07 11:08:57 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
No, they aren't. I've read it, and still have questions. Such as 'how the hell do I get hold of enough meta-level autocannons'?


get yo wonderbread azz to Jita and buy errything u need fool.
Smegma Cheesedog
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-06-07 11:12:00 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
I can fit them, but they're more isk than I'd like to spend on something that's just gonna end up a cloud of expanding dust in a minute or so from when I find someone to fight.

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If you cannot FUND a basic cheapazz Frigate you are not ready to PVP....
Rifters are well under 4M epicly fit.

go back to ibis mining until you got a bankroll fool...
Aliaksandre
Screaming Hayabusa
#15 - 2012-06-07 14:45:23 UTC
If you aren't kiting with barrage in a SAR fit you are doing it wrong.

Shield fit is nice, as stated, provides a surprise factor.

Merlin beats every fit listed in this thread.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-06-07 16:39:57 UTC
Load up with golden bullets.

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Eat dessert first!