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Thrasher vs Vexor tips?
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Alara IonStorm
#21 - 2012-05-11 03:53:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
ShahFluffers wrote:

[Vexor - lolThorax]


Notes: Less tank, but also much lighter and more agile than the 1600 version... and it deals a fair bit of pain... like... 500+ DPS of pain.

edit: actually... with almost the exact same setups the Vexor still manages to squeeze out a bit more DPS than the Thorax. And it will continue to deal the majority of its damage when ECM'ed. Lol

Yes but the question then becomes why are you flying a Thorax with a fit that does less.


[Thorax, New Setup 1]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Valkyrie II x5

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I use this Thorax pretty often and results are pretty wreaking. The Drone Boats natural ECM advantages aside this thing has about 60% more tank for 20% less Damage. That is just with one setup.

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

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About the same DPS.
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Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

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Same tank Tank, more DPS.
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They both have there weaknesses. Vexors better at killing smaller stuff not that even with Valks and Electrons the Thorax isn't. 800mm Vexor has better MWD speed, Thorax has better sub micro warp speed allowing it to hold Blaster Range.

Both have good advantages Shield, Small Neutron 1600mm, Ions, Electrons, Neutrons. But they are both strong in different area's and if the 2x Heavy Ion Vexor ended up in Scram Range of a 1600mm Thorax it would be toast.

Don't underestimate the Thorax.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#22 - 2012-05-11 03:57:15 UTC
Thrasher v. Vexor (1v1) is a pretty tough fight. Stay out of scram/web/neut range until you've chunked through all his drones, you might have a shot after that if he is primarily neut fit. Generally though, avoid that fight.

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Lauren Sheaperd
Know-Nothings
Boatload of Destruction
#23 - 2012-05-11 09:05:37 UTC
Fran Spamordi wrote:
So I lost out to a Vexor and a couple of other ships in a 2vs3, maybe I'm asking an obvious question but would it have been better for me to burn off from the other ships and try and take out the Vexor's drones? I have barrage loaded at the time but could have switched to EMP...

Any insightful tips?

Unfortunately, you were flying the wrong type of Thrasher. While yes, an auttocannon Thrasher can take out a Vexor, you'd be much better off with an artillery Thrasher and kite the target while taking out his drones. Try using something like this:
Quote:

[Thrasher, Kite!]
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Warp Disruptor II

250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


I've killed more than a few Vexors like this, but it takes some time. If you want more detail on how to fly it, hit me up in game.





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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#24 - 2012-05-11 20:13:13 UTC
Vexors are great ships probably the best cruiser - if you can get the enemy in scram range. For stuff smaller than a destroyer even with a web and a scram your heavy and even your medium valks won't hit an abing frigate very well. If you have medium guns it will be hard to hit them as well - perhaps drop can make the difference here.

Destroyers have a higher sig radius so if you get them scrammed and webbed you should be able to get enough shots on them even with medium guns.

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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#25 - 2012-05-12 10:16:06 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Buy a rupture.


Ruptures are like the all around best T1 cruiser but Vexors are pretty freaking awesome ships, it's one of my all time favorite cruisers. The biggest draw back with them now days is they can be pretty costly for newer players when you figure in cost of all the damn drones you have to carry.
Alara IonStorm
#26 - 2012-05-12 22:47:23 UTC
Mutnin wrote:

Ruptures are like the all around best T1 cruiser but Vexors are pretty freaking awesome ships, it's one of my all time favorite cruisers. The biggest draw back with them now days is they can be pretty costly for newer players when you figure in cost of all the damn drones you have to carry.

Though in return their biggest advantage is that with the Drone Skill you should have anyway you can fit them out with T2 Small Neutrons a 1600mm Plate and T2 Drones way quicker then a T2 Gun Rupture with T2 Warriors.

They are a short train. Most of the time if you go medium guns you go Thorax anyway.
Draco Rosso
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-05-12 23:02:31 UTC
Fran Spamordi wrote:
So I lost out to a Vexor and a couple of other ships in a 2vs3, maybe I'm asking an obvious question but would it have been better for me to burn off from the other ships and try and take out the Vexor's drones? I have barrage loaded at the time but could have switched to EMP...

Any insightful tips?


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