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Edward Khurelem
Khurelem Research and Development
#1 - 2012-05-12 02:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Edward Khurelem
So! Ladies and Gentlemen,

To settle a little disagreement between an "honourable" Ransom Taker and I being a Miner, we have decided to enlist the help of the general public.

Let me tell you the situation,

I was mining in the asteroid belts when a Pirate by the name of James 315 approached me in my Orca and started to attack my ship. Naturally, He opened a channel of communication and demanded the ransom amount of 90million ISK per ship. I, of course, decided to pay him because I didn't feel like losing over 900mil worth of mining assets. So I payed him the 90million ISK BUT I accidently put an extra 0 into the figure giving him 900m instead of the agreed amount.

So, I told him this, and he continued to destroying my ship and I ended up losing my Orca, Hulk and my Implants. Valued at over 2.3b. He said that I didn't give him the correct amount thus allowing him to destroy my ship and everything i had in it.

We then took this to a station where we continued to discuss this issue and he and I both agreed that we should see what other players think.

What are your thoughts on the situation? Do you believe he should reimburse me the 2.12b minus the ransom which of course i had every intention of paying or do you believe that i should suck it up and accept that I lost 2.12b over a typo?
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#2 - 2012-05-12 02:11:29 UTC
Posting in an alt thread.
Torneach
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-05-12 02:11:58 UTC
Killmail or it didn't happen.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#4 - 2012-05-12 02:12:25 UTC
I think you should expect to suck up the loss of 2.12 b over a typo. James315 is never going to give it back anyway, and 99% of the people here are going to say you should suck it up. Me, I'd give it back and probably honor the ransom. Lol
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Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#5 - 2012-05-12 02:12:33 UTC
Why would he give you the money back? Even if you pay him, he's not obligated to not blow you up.

Pirates gonna pirate.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#6 - 2012-05-12 02:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Cutter Isaacson
Edward Khurelem wrote:
So! Ladies and Gentlemen,

To settle a little disagreement between an "honourable" Ransom Taker and I being a Miner, we have decided to enlist the help of the general public.

Let me tell you the situation,

I was mining in the asteroid belts when a Pirate by the name of James 315 approached me in my Orca and started to attack my ship. Naturally, He opened a channel of communication and demanded the ransom amount of 90million ISK per ship. I, of course, decided to pay him because I didn't feel like losing over 900mil worth of mining assets. So I payed him the 90million ISK BUT I accidently put an extra 0 into the figure giving him 900m instead of the agreed amount.

So, I told him this, and he continued to destroying my ship and I ended up losing my Orca, Hulk and my Implants. Valued at over 2.3b. He said that I didn't give him the correct amount thus allowing him to destroy my ship and everything i had in it.

We then took this to a station where we continued to discuss this issue and he and I both agreed that we should see what other players think.

What are your thoughts on the situation? Do you believe he should reimburse me the 2.12b minus the ransom which of course i had every intention of paying or do you believe that i should suck it up and accept that I lost 2.12b over a typo?


Sorry to say but you pretty much got what you deserved. If you were out dual boxing, during Hulkageddon with an Orca and a Hulk, and no protection then you deserved what you got. As for not checking the amount you were paying him, that is also your own fault. Perhaps next time you will be more cautious.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#7 - 2012-05-12 02:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: James 315
I am the pirate referred to in the OP, and I am posting this to confirm that the story occurred as Edward Khurelem described it. He is not my alt; this incident just occurred and as soon as the eve-kill.net auto-posts the API-verified killmail I will edit this reply and provide a link (if permitted).

Edward and I both decided it would be best to allow the bright minds of Eve-O to mediate this matter.

EDIT:

The killmails have been posted by API to eve-kill.net, here's the link of the relevant battle (Edward was swapping between an Orca and Hulk, which were both destroyed, along with his capsule):

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13342824

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#8 - 2012-05-12 02:17:18 UTC
At least take the effort to change your damn writing style.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-12 02:17:48 UTC
this wouldn't have happened if you had purchased a Hulkageddon Mining Permit to protect your assets

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#10 - 2012-05-12 02:18:08 UTC
James 315 wrote:
I am the pirate referred to in the OP, and I am posting this to confirm that the story occurred as Edward Khurelem described it. He is not my alt; this incident just occurred and as soon as the eve-kill.net auto-posts the API-verified killmail I will edit this reply and provide a link (if permitted).

Edward and I both decided it would be best to allow the bright minds of Eve-O to mediate this matter.


You're a pirate, son. Act like it. Take what you can, give nothin' back, right?

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#11 - 2012-05-12 02:19:28 UTC
You over-payed the random and still died. And you expect him to change his mind after humiliating yourself on GD telling everyone how you screwed up AND expect any empathy from GD at all to begin with? Fake post from a alt character.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#12 - 2012-05-12 02:20:14 UTC
*waits for the killmail* Smile

...what I meant to add in my last post but sort of inferred, was that James315 knows the great minds of EVE-O are going to side with him, percentage-wise anyway. Which is to say, you're sol.
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Edward Khurelem
Khurelem Research and Development
#13 - 2012-05-12 02:20:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Edward Khurelem
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
You over-payed the random and still died. And you expect him to change his mind after humiliating yourself on GD telling everyone how you screwed up AND expect any empathy from GD at all to begin with? Fake post from a alt character.


I am not his alt, frankly that is insulting. I would never sink as low to become a pirate

Oh and I am not humilited. I am rich :) I know that if I undock from a station who knows what will happen. Golden Rule of eve. Never undock if you aren't afraid of losing it
Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
#14 - 2012-05-12 02:22:10 UTC
Paid*

F*&%ing A^%hole
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-12 02:23:53 UTC
Edward Khurelem wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
You over-payed the random and still died. And you expect him to change his mind after humiliating yourself on GD telling everyone how you screwed up AND expect any empathy from GD at all to begin with? Fake post from a alt character.


I am not his alt, frankly that is insulting. I would never sink as low to become a pirate

Oh and I am not humilited. I am rich :) I know that if I undock from a station who knows what will happen. Golden Rule of eve. Never undock if you aren't afraid of losing it


http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=561860&page=1#2

know who you're talking to son

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Pres Crendraven
#16 - 2012-05-12 02:24:33 UTC
Belongs in C and P

Meta34me

Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#17 - 2012-05-12 02:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Mars Theran wrote:
*waits for the killmail* Smile


Personally, I'd be more interested in a screenshot of the transaction logs with timestamps visible after an API verified KM is posted.

This reeks of alt, due to the identical writing style, the first post on that char, the lack of butthurt, and the name drop in the first post.
Edward Khurelem
Khurelem Research and Development
#18 - 2012-05-12 02:29:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Edward Khurelem
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
*waits for the killmail* Smile


Personally, I'd be more interested in a screenshot of the transaction logs with timestamps visible after an API verified KM is posted.

This reeks of alt, due to the identical writing style, the first post on that char, the lack of butthurt, and the name drop in the first post.


Why would I be butt hurt haha? Honestly! I thought EVE was for more mature people and if you want a screen shot i'll give you one

Oh and the fact that this is my first post on EVE forums, is because I don't value other peoples opinions as much as I value my own
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#19 - 2012-05-12 02:32:25 UTC
Edward Khurelem wrote:
I thought EVE was for more mature people


Someone once said miners are the most disconnected players from the actual game. This perhaps proves it.
Edward Khurelem
Khurelem Research and Development
#20 - 2012-05-12 02:34:44 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Edward Khurelem wrote:
I thought EVE was for more mature people


Someone once said miners are the most disconnected players from the actual game. This perhaps proves it.


Perhaps
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