EVE General Discussion

You are talking out of your arse mate. I have been playing for nearly 9 years. In that time I have PVP'd been part of larger corps and alliances (when I had more time to commit), lived in low and nul sec and made ISK in many different and wonderful ways. How about you check your facts before claiming you know **** about me and my motivations and how much I know of the game.

I'm just explaining why some ppl don't go into lower sec. Coming in here and insulting ppl you know nothing about and making yourself look stupid isn't helping.

Some one needs to spoon feed you some humility.

Tal

Nicely written! Exactly what I've been trying to get across.

Look, it's all really quite simple.

You CANNOT force a player to do what he doesn't want to do.

I don't mean "cannot" as in "not able to with game mechanics". And I don't mean "you shouldn't". I mean you CAN NOT as in "the moment you do it, they cease to be a player of the game". Just like you cannot blow out the sun with flatulence, no matter how epic. This applies to both forcing the player, and trying to get him to do it by enticing him instead (high rewards in lower sec). If a player doesn't wish to be in low/null, he will not go to low/null. It's all really quite simple. And nothing will change that.

Now, you could remove high sec. The end result? The 60% of player base that live there will leave the game. Because...say it with me...you CANNOT force a player to do what he doesn't want to do! High sec exists, and is more populated than low and null and wormholes put together, because players WANT to be there. Take it away, or make it impractical, and all you will accomplish is lose the bulk of your player base.

I don't know how else I can explain that in simpler terms that you guys would understand. High sec isn't broken, it's a CHOICE. You can't "fix" a choice made by another player, and you can't force your playstyle on them. If their chosen playstyle becomes nonviable - either due to game rules redesign or hostile player interference - they simply leave.

Ahhh.... I think the fact that you've been playing for 9 years and can't string together a few ships and are still having conniptions about loosing your ships in null speaks volumes. Some people get better at things when they do them for a long time. Guess you aren't in that club. You live a hard life. I would wager a great many tears have been harvested from your face. lol!

I don't fear either...I fear wasting my time making up for losses that I don't have to incur in the first place.

Time is the most precious thing I have. The consequences for death in EvE means you must spend time making up for it.

Yeah, you are mistaken. 0.0 is safe for anyone moving within territories controlled by, (or at least safeguarded by), their Alliance, but for anyone else it is essentially a Deathtrap.

I have been in and out of 0.0 many times for many different reasons and not a one of them was spying or grief-cloaking. Every experience without exception has been extremely hazardous and many have ended with me being podded back to wherever I came from.

I suppose I have got through and back more times than been podded, but it isn't because someone, or more often multiple someones didn't try. I think I have ever only been in 0.0 once without actually having someone make the effort to gank me at some point. This includes Faction 0.0 just as much as it includes true Nullsec.

I've been playing ~5 years and while not specifically afraid to go into 0.0, I generally tend not to unless I'm forced to for some reason or willing to take the risk with a little minimization strategy. My experience has taught me the opposite of what you say is true, and I've been in most every section of 0.0, so it's not like I keep going back to any one particular place though I have visited a few places more often than others.

I wouldn't even go so far with that idea. I see this thread as a haphazard attempt to bridge the gap between the two sectors. Seriously though, no trolling or being facetious, what nulsec alliance would allow anyone who isn't blue to traipse through their territory unmolested? Well...I mean besides a NRDS alliance.

I don't know...I've been thinking about Nulsec, just don't know yet...I actually want to.

Do not hesitate. Go. Join the corp of your choice, move your medical clone to their facilities, and pod yourself via self-destruct.

Leave your assets in high-sec as a "safety net" and go out there. You can always go back and sell them later.

I did.

Gustav, only one real thing really stops me...as mentioned, my inability to be on every night. I live so close to nulsec, it's almost funny. Like seven jumps from Goon space, provided they still have EC. I'm assuming they have had EC at one time, I've stuck my nose out there via the Black Rise back door before.

I don't know, you look at my KB and tell me if that's want you would want...last look I was 44-46, but my Isk destroyed/Isk lost is horribly skewed due to a gank that has BPCs valued as BPOs. Looks horrible. Ihate it, and honestly, that one incident really made me isolate myself from that point on.

But yeah, I think I would enjoy hooking up with a solid alliance out near my area, doing the nulsec thing. I've just never tried because the those stats and my real life. That's pretty much it.

I re-engineered a nullsec corp and geared it towards the casual nullsec player. It is perfectly possible to play in nullsec casually, but only in "eve terms" casually. It does take a certain block of time to even get at fights in nullsec, or to really get sorted and get cooking in some isk generation. I'd say 1-2 2 hour blocks per week is the bare minimum to really enjoy the nullsec experience. There are still many players in my old corp who play this much and are great contributors to the corp and alliance. Anything less than that, I think you're better off elsewhere, I imagine WHs are similar.