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Starting PI, questions!

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Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#1 - 2012-05-06 20:47:10 UTC
I've started basic PI in high sec with my alt. I'm trying to get down the basics.

Right now I have this set up on a temperate planet:

I have the extractor control units extracting microorganisms and then routed through the command center. CC is then routed to a processing facility to produce bacteria and then routed to a storage facility.

Will the micoorgs continue through the line and get processed into bacteria and sent to the storage facility automatically or do I have to assist the process at different points in the route?

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-06 20:58:43 UTC
route everything to and from a spaceport (or storage facility)

this way you wont loose any overproduction
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#3 - 2012-05-06 21:14:15 UTC
can you elaborate on that please? Are you saying every step in the chain should go through a storage facility or launch pad? or Can I just use one and route everything to/through it or do I need multiple ones?
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-05-06 21:16:22 UTC
On planets with very good extraction rates, I tend to route from extractors to a storage facility, and from there into multiple factories; finished products are then routed to a launchpad. If your extraction rates aren't high enough to support a storage facility between extractors and factories you can adjust as needed. Works wonderfully for me; ymmv.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#5 - 2012-05-06 21:30:04 UTC
that sounds good, so routes don't have to go through the command center? I've only pretty much watched the PI starter vid and was just following their setup.

Thanks for the responses.
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#6 - 2012-05-06 21:35:36 UTC
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
that sounds good, so routes don't have to go through the command center? I've only pretty much watched the PI starter vid and was just following their setup.

Thanks for the responses.


No the command center is essentially worthless after you drop it and upgrade it. I never touch mine or link it to any facilities after it's on the ground.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#7 - 2012-05-06 23:16:05 UTC
How do you get items from other planets back to a planet for further processing?
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#8 - 2012-05-06 23:28:00 UTC
Via Cargo ships. You have to transport them yourself.

Use a launchpad to transfer them to orbit(customs office) where you pick them up and transport them to another planets custom office.

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Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#9 - 2012-05-06 23:43:44 UTC
Is it better to concentrate all your extractors on one type of resource per planet at any given time?
Hatt0ri Hanz0
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
#10 - 2012-05-07 00:06:30 UTC
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
Is it better to concentrate all your extractors on one type of resource per planet at any given time?


It doesn't really matter. It depends on the type of setup. If your doing a P0 all the way to P2 setup, then of course, you're going to have two separate extractor heads, each extracting the P0 needed to fuel the P1, and then P2 factories.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-05-07 00:14:02 UTC
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
Is it better to concentrate all your extractors on one type of resource per planet at any given time?


I tend to, yes. It maximizes the yield per planet; then just transport it to your Advanced Factory planet and import. If you're worried about taxes, some planets can generate sufficient yield on two P1 to produce a P2 (such as coolant), but you have to do the math to decide if that's efficient for you.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#12 - 2012-05-07 00:14:30 UTC
I was just wondering how that worked with the different resources being spread around with the different areas. So you would just find the best spot to set up shop between the highest concentrations?

Again, thanks for all the responses.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-05-07 00:23:03 UTC
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
I was just wondering how that worked with the different resources being spread around with the different areas. So you would just find the best spot to set up shop between the highest concentrations?

Again, thanks for all the responses.


When setting up a new planet, I tend to look for one with either a) good distribution of the one P0 that I need, or b) one with an even distribution of two good P0. If the latter, I tend to place my CC in an area where I can swap to the other P0 when I burn the first one out. Heads will have to be decommissioned, but the CC won't. I'm not a fan of stretching extractors really far from the CC (hold-over from the early days), so I like to keep them relatively close to it.
Morgan Dinn
Imperial Mechanics
#14 - 2012-05-07 06:10:44 UTC
My personal view is to do P1 stuff and then export them and assemble them to what ever I want on one planet. Tough I had alot of planets so thats why I decided to go with that sollution. It was just so much simpler to manage.

So basicly it depends how many planets you will have and what will the end product be.

With one char I would most likely try to do pos fuels so P3 max unless you do some market stuff also on the side.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#15 - 2012-05-11 01:05:08 UTC
another question: I deploy an extractor and say I use 5 heads on that extractor. So I grab a head to decide placement and the graph moves depicting my estimated influx.

Does the graph represent the 5 heads as a total or does it indicate onlythe head that I am currently trying to place?
Khadanne
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-05-11 15:09:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Khadanne
I have a question too:

How do you manage a depleted area? you decomission the extractor and place a new one in the location?
Or do you keep it as it is and wait for the ressources to 'come back'?
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#17 - 2012-05-11 17:01:20 UTC
The resources don't come back. Only if you stop extracting and give it time to regenerate. Decomission the extractor and place it somewhere else.

Sometimes when I plan ahead and do a new setup, then I expect a 30%-50% drop in resources and build around that model.

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Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#18 - 2012-05-12 23:24:13 UTC
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
another question: I deploy an extractor and say I use 5 heads on that extractor. So I grab a head to decide placement and the graph moves depicting my estimated influx.

Does the graph represent the 5 heads as a total or does it indicate onlythe head that I am currently trying to place?


bump :)
Sesindir
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-05-13 00:47:26 UTC
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
Naes Mlahrend wrote:
another question: I deploy an extractor and say I use 5 heads on that extractor. So I grab a head to decide placement and the graph moves depicting my estimated influx.

Does the graph represent the 5 heads as a total or does it indicate onlythe head that I am currently trying to place?


bump :)



The graph shows all of the heads combined. If you look at the little symbol for the head you are moving (should highlight) you will see the number increase/decrease depending on where it is moved to.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#20 - 2012-05-13 03:46:00 UTC
thanks <3