Player Features and Ideas Discussion

NeverHappy (tm)

Don't forget to buff the COSMOS plates as well, most COSMOS items are the same stats as T2, with lower fittings.

How about you DECREASING HP bonuses for all plates except tech2 instead?

So that we don't promote current buffer overtanking even further?

Because if they do that, they'll end up spending more than twice as much time on it.

With the fitting requirements of T2 plates, I don't think you'll have that problem.

Current fleet fits being as tight as they are already, I don't see it as a problem with T2 plates having even as much as 20% more HP from their current versions.

Armor Tank and Speed, bit of an oxymoron there. Stands to reason more armor = more mass = less agile. Think of it like a Rhino - Slow but tough.

T2 plates have been around for how long now, 6 years or so? And never was there a dev that noticed the fact that they were completely neglected, and tried to alter a tiny percent to their stats every month until their metrics showed them being used to some degree.

These are likely to be wasted words that no one hears, but still.

Do you realize this is nothing else but a next coil of EHP idiocy? We've had a lot of them before, with each one delivering a powerful blow to EVE previously fun and dinamic, where stuff used to actually explode under fire and where active tanks made much more sense than today.

Upon adopting these changes EHP will increase across the board, dumbing EVE down even further and widening the gap between active and passive tanks applicability even more. How does this comply with you stating you're considering to finally address passive and active tanks? If anything, that's the worst move you could ever come up with - that's like fighting a fire with gasoline.

But things surely don't end up right there. Given tech2 plates have increased requirements over tech1, people will start complaining about some particular ships not having enough grid to utilize those plates, as tech2 plates will be considered pretty much as a standard. Undoubtedly CCP, as non-resistant to whinning, will consider increasing powergrids all across the board, just like it got increased over time due to proliferation of tech2 mods in general - namely, guns. In general this means that pilots have to make less choices in their setups, basically fitting top-tier stuff and getting away with that. When was it the last time you saw Abaddons using Dual Heavy Pulse lasers or Megathrone with Ions or - God forbid - Electrons!? Only active tank setups require that kind of sacrifices, it's always 'go for top-tier' for passive ones and you display no signs whatsoever that this attitude is gonna change.

Also, I'm finding it extremely funny how CCP Yutterbium submitted a thread with rig changes which made perfect sense and yet then got it retracted due to clueless whinners (who all belonged to a passive tank apologists mob), while you ask no feedback whatsoever and for some reason decide your game knowledge allows you to introduce such an awfully controversal change without asking the playerbase first.

Finally, you have to expect abusers of shield overtanking to come here to whine that the balance between armour and shield gets shifted towards armour. And no doubt you - by your logic - will then increase Shield Extenders bonuses instead of reducing those for plates.

Seriously, dude - go ask CCP Yutterbium to address that. Don't touch it yourself.