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New dev blog: Alliance Tournament X Sign Ups, Commentators and Schedule

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Cannery Canoule
War is Bliss
#41 - 2012-05-10 20:22:13 UTC
Bacchanalian wrote:
It's a shame that for yet another year we'll have a commentator who has taken such long extended breaks from the game (and can't tell the difference between pulse and beam harbingers). Kil2 must have made some really good friends in Reykjavik.

More fresh faces in general would be nice, honestly.


He's been actively pvping for the last several months. He hosts a podcast where he discusses small gang pvp every two weeks and he has been uploading pvp commentaries to his youtube channel. Out of all the commentators chosen he's probably the most in touch with the scale at which the fights in the AT take place.

I guess you're looking for commentators that don't have a clue because then you'd be able to relate?
Andrea Griffin
#42 - 2012-05-10 20:27:49 UTC
Kil2 is awesome and he doesn't say SKIM-atar.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-05-10 20:33:28 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Addrake wrote:
How about this.. Plex is not actually easier for us, the players to work with.

How about we give you isk (very easy to work with and transfer) and then you can go ahead and buy plex to take off the market once you actually have the isk in your hands.


You make an interesting counter offer. Unfortunately this is how the tournament will run this year. If you wish to be included in the random draw you will be unable to do so unless there are 10 PLEX in the redeeming system.

Shame, that means you are "forced" to drive up PLEX prices even further, thereby strengthening their position against RMT though also losing a handful of players unable to afford these insane prices.

But meh, a bought PLEX is money in CCPs coffer. Then it does not matter what the PLEX what used for.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Lazarus Telraven
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2012-05-10 20:40:52 UTC
Cannery Canoule wrote:
Bacchanalian wrote:
It's a shame that for yet another year we'll have a commentator who has taken such long extended breaks from the game (and can't tell the difference between pulse and beam harbingers). Kil2 must have made some really good friends in Reykjavik.

More fresh faces in general would be nice, honestly.


He's been actively pvping for the last several months. He hosts a podcast where he discusses small gang pvp every two weeks and he has been uploading pvp commentaries to his youtube channel. Out of all the commentators chosen he's probably the most in touch with the scale at which the fights in the AT take place.

I guess you're looking for commentators that don't have a clue because then you'd be able to relate?


The cool thing about the alliance tournament is that in many aspects it is completely different then the normal everyday PVP that you see on TQ. The teams spend months preparing for this and come up with custom strategies and ship compositions.

I've been working on my facial expressions for the past few days to see if I could match shadoo but I dont think my eyebrows are physically capable of extending that far!
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#45 - 2012-05-10 21:10:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Cap Tyrian
Just writing to say that the format is still not ideal and encourages fixed matches.

I of all people love to play the dirty politics card but this isn't dirty politics its predefined common sense.
Intigo
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-05-10 23:53:57 UTC
Bacchanalian wrote:
It's a shame that for yet another year we'll have a commentator who has taken such long extended breaks from the game (and can't tell the difference between pulse and beam harbingers). Kil2 must have made some really good friends in Reykjavik.

More fresh faces in general would be nice, honestly.


You are a pathetic joke.

hydra provail
parasite
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
#47 - 2012-05-11 01:11:31 UTC
10 plexes is 175 euro and the icelandic króna is 163 which means as an alliance leader ill have to spend 28.500,- Kr to apply to the Alliance tourney.

you guys are freakin insane and have lost all concept of money.
Vaurion Infara
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-05-11 01:43:41 UTC
parasite wrote:
10 plexes is 175 euro and the icelandic króna is 163 which means as an alliance leader ill have to spend 28.500,- Kr to apply to the Alliance tourney.

you guys are freakin insane and have lost all concept of money.


Shhhhh, they need a new coffee table in the office. All the raping of the market for the sake of plex inflation isn't enough, apparently.

this is it
The Atomium
Global Song Setup
#49 - 2012-05-11 01:47:19 UTC
If your alliance/people who want to participate in the ATX can't afford 10 Plexes, you're doing something very wrong.

The second part of my post is about the use of plexes in general. It's not really cool, because you drive the plex price higher and fck with all the people who want to pay their account with plexes.

So my proposal is:
Use tokens that are tied to the average plex price, so you aren't interfering the plex market, but don't have to deal with ingame ISK.

aka Luba Cibre
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#50 - 2012-05-11 01:56:49 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Addrake wrote:
1) The 10 plex for the random draw. Is that payable only if you are selected in the random draw, or is that to purchase an entry into the random draw itself?


it is to purchase an entry into the random draw. The CEO of your executor corporation will need to have 10 PLEX in the redeeming system to qualify for the random draw. If you are not successful in the draw, you can use these 10 PLEX for the auction slots. If you are still not successful, the PLEX will be contracted back to the CEO of the executor corporation.


Actually, I have a problem with this. I understand the need to cover the costs of live streaming and all that, and sure it will lower the influence on the Plex market initially, but: a CEO is required to have 10 PLEX in the redeeming system? ..you mean the CEO has to fork over a purchase of 10 PLEX to get them in the redeeming system, to make a bid for the random draw.

Now that might not seem so bad for some, but that basically means smaller Alliances will need the CEO to make the PLEX purchase, where larger Alliances with the Cash flow in game just need to put PLEX into a Contract using in-game assets.

Surely, that will restrict the number of Alliances entering the initial drawing, and it will cause a massive drop in PLEX value when they all go out of the redeeming system and onto the market, but that is a lot of money for one person to fork out for the sake of a larger group.

Maybe not that big a deal, I don't know, but I wasn't planning on entering anyway. If I was this would be a bit of a deterrent for sure.
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Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#51 - 2012-05-11 01:58:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Cap Tyrian
I'm sure that all those PLEX are given to the winners instead of the usual 50B.

Edit:
Quote:
As we intend to stream all four weekends, we obviously incur additional costs. Using PLEX allows us to provide a top quality stream and production throughout the entire event.


Well that makes sense, although i find AT and the PR that comes with them to be something that ccp could fund themselves.
Maraner
The Executioners
#52 - 2012-05-11 02:19:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Maraner
Looking forward to ATX hugely, BUT I'm sorry 10 PLEX!..... just to be in with a chance of bidding for a space? thats BS, they should all be allocated via draw.

I'm a big fan of the new direction that CCP has taken, but this just seems grubby. I realise that this is EVE and that might makes right but seriously this sould be an open tournament to all not just the loaded to those that can afford the PLEX not all of us belong to OTEC.

did someone really think this through?

At the very least the PLEX should be given to charity

Sorry but no like...
Zastrow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-05-11 02:42:23 UTC
Let's say that you have an alliance of the minimum size to even have a full team: 12. That's LESS THAN 1 PLEX PER PILOT. And its refunded if you don't get in. If anything it'll create somewhat of a barrier to stupid gimmick alliances applying.
Rrama Ratamnim
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-05-11 03:04:01 UTC
For the LOVE OF GOD, how do you CEO's not know that you can buy plex's for isk and reverse-redeem them back to the redeem system, you dont need to "buy" plex's for cash for this
Lazarus Telraven
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2012-05-11 03:14:36 UTC
Zastrow wrote:
Let's say that you have an alliance of the minimum size to even have a full team: 12. That's LESS THAN 1 PLEX PER PILOT. And its refunded if you don't get in. If anything it'll create somewhat of a barrier to stupid gimmick alliances applying.


Zastrow has a good point in that 5 billion isk isn't that much isk these days especially when you look at the number of people it takes to field a tournament team, have the members kick in a plex or two each.

The entry last year i believe was ~2billion isk which set the bar far to low, this change is a good change.
Maraner
The Executioners
#56 - 2012-05-11 03:25:27 UTC
Well Goons have money to burn Jita with..... the point I'm making is that CCP is asking people to pay for a chance to fight in the tournament. I've no doubt that we will have no issues getting 10 Plex to enable us to take part in the auction, but how much is it likely to cost to buy a slot?

Can anyone remember how much last years slots went for?
Maraner
The Executioners
#57 - 2012-05-11 03:27:34 UTC
Zastrow wrote:
Let's say that you have an alliance of the minimum size to even have a full team: 12. That's LESS THAN 1 PLEX PER PILOT. And its refunded if you don't get in. If anything it'll create somewhat of a barrier to stupid gimmick alliances applying.



lol at a Goon accusing people of being stupid gimmick alliances
Lazarus Telraven
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2012-05-11 03:36:56 UTC
Maraner wrote:
Well Goons have money to burn Jita with..... the point I'm making is that CCP is asking people to pay for a chance to fight in the tournament. I've no doubt that we will have no issues getting 10 Plex to enable us to take part in the auction, but how much is it likely to cost to buy a slot?

Can anyone remember how much last years slots went for?



You also have to remember that with the cutting of B/C teams means that there will be many more spots open to other teams. And in my opinion it will cause the auction prices to be much lower then last year.
Maraner
The Executioners
#59 - 2012-05-11 03:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Maraner
Hmm possibly, still no idea what it was last year, we were lucky enough to get drawn. Price check for tournament entry anyone?
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#60 - 2012-05-11 03:54:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Rrama Ratamnim wrote:
For the LOVE OF GOD, how do you CEO's not know that you can buy plex's for isk and reverse-redeem them back to the redeem system, you dont need to "buy" plex's for cash for this


I wasn't aware you could reverse redeem. What exactly is the point of that?

edit: aside from this, (for the first time), instance.
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