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Copine Callmeknau
Callmeknau Holdings
#1 - 2012-05-09 01:04:04 UTC
Right
On to the module so terrible nobody has even bothered giving any feedback on it.

These drones are marginally effective at the best of times and flat out useless in most other situations.
Heavies provide some decent speed reduction, but are so slow themselves that they aren't really worth using outside of highly regulated/situational engagements

The new lights and mediums are nice and quick, but the web amount they give is pathetic due to stacking penalty. 4'th and 5'th light web drones reduce total speed by <1% each.

Sooo it seems to me we could either alter the stacking penalty or adjust the web amount
Stacking penalty is a bit complicated for my coffee deprived brain atm, so I was thinking adjust the web drones like this:

SW-900 - 20% web -> 25% web
SW-600 - 10% web -> 15% web
SW-300 - 5% web -> 10% web



Obviously fiddling the stacking penalty in regards to drones would be a better solution, but I'm not sure how long/complicated that would be, and a little web buff to these drones might well achieve a similar effect

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Mariner6
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-09 01:26:23 UTC
I think its about 12% with 5 lights. Just did some more on Sisi. Wow they are fragile, though the drone hp bonus helps a bit. But the 12% was simply not worth is against MWD or oversized AB targets. And as always, the ships burn too quick beyond drone control range unless you completely gimp you high slots with drone links.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#3 - 2012-05-09 02:19:36 UTC
They really should be slightly stronger due to travel time and the outright unit death possibility. Even so, I don't see any situation I personally would use these over ECM or Combat in solo or group. like painter drones, dampers, etc. Very nitch.
2ofSpades
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-05-09 03:12:04 UTC
I agree with Copine on the small and medium web drones.


I would leave the tank the same so they can be taken care of by smartbombs just like the rest of the ewar drones.




IMO


SW-900 - 20% web -> 20% web
SW-600 - 10% web -> 15% web

SW-300 - 5% web -> 10% web



The light drones get about 40% but then if thats the case I think the light drones should orbit in range of small meta smartbombs. I would leave the large drones the same though becasue with 5 large@25% you would get a 75% web and those drones can fly 1.8-1.9km so you would have megas running around pulling vindi like moves on bc's all the time. Ships that were made for webbing would become useless like the ashimu which has already had its drone bay nerfed to worthlessness .
Rrama Ratamnim
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-09 04:08:15 UTC
If CCP isn't going to remove the stacking penalty of web drones, then PLEASE before frigging Inferno hits, as it what ship will take SW-300's when they can just take EC-300's and have EPICLY more usefullness in every situation.
Copine Callmeknau
Callmeknau Holdings
#6 - 2012-05-09 07:30:26 UTC
2ofSpades wrote:
I would leave the large drones the same though becasue with 5 large@25% you would get a 75% web and those drones can fly 1.8-1.9km so you would have megas running around pulling vindi like moves on bc's all the time. Ships that were made for webbing would become useless like the ashimu which has already had its drone bay nerfed to worthlessness .

Heh, I don't think that SW-900's would become the OP win button you describe, hell how they are currently looks good on paper, it's near 55% iirc. Problem is they clearly aren't balanced despite how they look on paper. They are probably slightly more useful than damp drones atm and I would def pick painter/neut drones over SW-900 as it stands now.

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Mariner6
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-10 15:15:54 UTC
5 web drones regardless of size should have the same power as one mid slot mod. The only difference then being in the speed and tank of the drones. But lets face it, no one uses or will use a heavy web drone ever. Worthless. Medium perhaps if it was worth the drone bay space, but its not. Or maybe drone boats apply their 10% dps increase to EWAR drones specific effect. That way a drone boat fielding 5 lights would push out over 50% web strength or some such.

Tierere
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-11 00:21:04 UTC
my feedback,

Those web drones are a total waist of time. Why is ccp introducing a mod that is totally useless??? I thought they were ment to be trying to fix things not introduce more stuff that's will never get used.

They make no significant effect on speed, they are to slow and have such low hp any ship i've tried them against can one shot them. That's three reasons why they're rubbish, there is no reason put them in your drone bay, as soon as they are launched your left with no drones, it's still either damage drones or ecm's.

If they were ment to help slower ships catch faster ships then they dont work and never will with the current spec.

Suppose missiles are getting the attention just now, but this is an uninspiring effort. To be useful they need to work similar to the webber drones found in some missions.