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No Insurance, Suicide Ganking Effects
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Boomhaur
#1 - 2012-05-10 19:34:40 UTC
I started playing again close to 2 months ago and it seems the Carebears have whined enough that the Concord insurance was taken away from suicide ganking. Quite dispointed in that even though I would qualify as a carebear myself as I think people should be forced to think ahead more in what they are doing will make them a more juicy target, but that is besides the point.

Before I stopped playing for a bit it seemed like I noticed more suicide gankers and occasionally finding camps that the capability to take down freighters every now and than. Now besides the whole burn jita thing I have yet to see anything that has even met 1/2 of the force I use to see, I usually encounter at most 2-4 ships that are setup at gates, mostly destroyers and tier 3 BC's. So it seems like most of their targets are a lot more lightly armored such as industrials and frigates, as always. But nothing I encoutered so far has had the capability to take down anything decently tanked like a moderately tanked BC.

So is my assessment so far true that we are doing a lot of suicide ganking of lightly armored ships, and significantly less of the more heavily armored ones due to the nerf? Or have I just been lucky and not seen any of those more formable camps?

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Alonzo Odantis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-05-10 19:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Alonzo Odantis
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Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-05-10 21:49:37 UTC
Personally, I don't think someone who is destroyed by CONCORD should get any insurance, as I'm sure that (considering that they are a police agency with full support of all races) they would just confiscate the funds before they are paid out by the insuring agent. Where do you think they get all their fancy ship funding from! ;)

I mean, that makes sense.

It also simply means that suicide gankers need to hit the RIGHT targets (if they do it for profit). If they do it for the Hell of it, they're not interested in the ISK anyway.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-10 22:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
THE POLICE WRECKED MY CAR AFTER I SHOT SOMEONE! I WANT CAOMPENSATION!! Ganking is fine atm, a 4 mill dessie is not too much to ask.
Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#5 - 2012-05-10 22:51:23 UTC
Boomhaur, I can't understand a word you're saying, must be the echo.

S H I T P O S T I N G
Boomhaur
#6 - 2012-05-10 23:31:46 UTC
Angry Onions wrote:
Boomhaur, I can't understand a word you're saying, must be the echo.


Yeah man I tell ya what... Did one of them snipe hunts last night... man with them dang ol' sticks and bags and Whack! Whack! man, go Woooo-loo-loo-loo!... Talk about big mistake y'all... It's right there in that cooler.

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Dare Knight
Bandwagoners
#7 - 2012-05-10 23:33:59 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
THE POLICE WRECKED MY CAR AFTER I SHOT SOMEONE! I WANT CAOMPENSATION!!


/thread

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Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#8 - 2012-05-11 06:15:18 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
Angry Onions wrote:
Boomhaur, I can't understand a word you're saying, must be the echo.


Yeah man I tell ya what... Did one of them snipe hunts last night... man with them dang ol' sticks and bags and Whack! Whack! man, go Woooo-loo-loo-loo!... Talk about big mistake y'all... It's right there in that cooler.


You have won my admiration, good sir.

S H I T P O S T I N G
Lysaeus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-05-11 06:50:29 UTC
If it's fine to not get insurance from a suicide gank then it should be fine to remove insurance payouts from self desctructing.
Boomhaur
#10 - 2012-05-11 07:05:33 UTC
Lysaeus wrote:
If it's fine to not get insurance from a suicide gank then it should be fine to remove insurance payouts from self desctructing.


You do bring up a good point they should stop paying people to self destruct.

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Troll Gremlin
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-05-11 07:22:29 UTC
if carebears wanna stop ganking they should just up the prices on the best ganking ships and guns instend of bit.ching to ccp about it, as a former miner i know all about being suicide ganked, can fliped and grefing. But i learned fast how to avoid being a target and its really not that hard. Problem with most miners is that they use bots, r afk or watching p.o.r.n which means they're not paying attention. So who's fault is it really that they get ganked? Maybe insted of stoping gankers ccp should make mining more interesting (although don't ask me how) so that miners don't become braindead.
Boomhaur
#12 - 2012-05-11 07:28:05 UTC
Troll Gremlin wrote:
if carebears wanna stop ganking they should just up the prices on the best ganking ships and guns instend of bit.ching to ccp about it, as a former miner i know all about being suicide ganked, can fliped and grefing. But i learned fast how to avoid being a target and its really not that hard. Problem with most miners is that they use bots, r afk or watching p.o.r.n which means they're not paying attention. So who's fault is it really that they get ganked? Maybe insted of stoping gankers ccp should make mining more interesting (although don't ask me how) so that miners don't become braindead.


Hate to break it to you but I wasn't whining about suicide gankers, if anything I was doing the exact opposite.

I was more curious as to what I was seeing was the norm now since the insurance nerf there are less large squads of people taking out freighters and other high ehp ships.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Troll Gremlin
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-05-11 07:46:26 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
Troll Gremlin wrote:
if carebears wanna stop ganking they should just up the prices on the best ganking ships and guns instend of bit.ching to ccp about it, as a former miner i know all about being suicide ganked, can fliped and grefing. But i learned fast how to avoid being a target and its really not that hard. Problem with most miners is that they use bots, r afk or watching p.o.r.n which means they're not paying attention. So who's fault is it really that they get ganked? Maybe insted of stoping gankers ccp should make mining more interesting (although don't ask me how) so that miners don't become braindead.


Hate to break it to you but I wasn't whining about suicide gankers, if anything I was doing the exact opposite.

I was more curious as to what I was seeing was the norm now since the insurance nerf there are less large squads of people taking out freighters and other high ehp ships.



ahh...Sad i was hopeing to start a all out carebear rage rant.....ur no fun...
Boomhaur
#14 - 2012-05-11 07:48:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Boomhaur
Troll Gremlin wrote:
Boomhaur wrote:
Troll Gremlin wrote:
if carebears wanna stop ganking they should just up the prices on the best ganking ships and guns instend of bit.ching to ccp about it, as a former miner i know all about being suicide ganked, can fliped and grefing. But i learned fast how to avoid being a target and its really not that hard. Problem with most miners is that they use bots, r afk or watching p.o.r.n which means they're not paying attention. So who's fault is it really that they get ganked? Maybe insted of stoping gankers ccp should make mining more interesting (although don't ask me how) so that miners don't become braindead.


Hate to break it to you but I wasn't whining about suicide gankers, if anything I was doing the exact opposite.

I was more curious as to what I was seeing was the norm now since the insurance nerf there are less large squads of people taking out freighters and other high ehp ships.



ahh...Sad i was hopeing to start a all out carebear rage rant.....ur no fun...


I am fun, your just not my type Lol

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Troll Gremlin
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-05-11 07:50:55 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
Troll Gremlin wrote:
Boomhaur wrote:
Troll Gremlin wrote:
if carebears wanna stop ganking they should just up the prices on the best ganking ships and guns instend of bit.ching to ccp about it, as a former miner i know all about being suicide ganked, can fliped and grefing. But i learned fast how to avoid being a target and its really not that hard. Problem with most miners is that they use bots, r afk or watching p.o.r.n which means they're not paying attention. So who's fault is it really that they get ganked? Maybe insted of stoping gankers ccp should make mining more interesting (although don't ask me how) so that miners don't become braindead.


Hate to break it to you but I wasn't whining about suicide gankers, if anything I was doing the exact opposite.

I was more curious as to what I was seeing was the norm now since the insurance nerf there are less large squads of people taking out freighters and other high ehp ships.



ahh...Sad i was hopeing to start a all out carebear rage rant.....ur no fun...


I am fun, your just not my type Blink


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NO, U R!!!!
Rockius
Zero Reps Given
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-05-12 09:16:57 UTC
Yeah I have noticed aswell the gangs are hunting and camping in smaller cheaper ships but there are still localized groups that wait for that big ticket item to bring out the t3 bcs for. 

The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-05-14 04:00:15 UTC
I kersploded a Hulk and it's on the killboard but the goons send no monies? I thought goons where the most trustworthy in eve Sad

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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#18 - 2012-05-14 14:23:50 UTC
You don't really need to gank well-tanked ships when there are this many carebears flying billions of ISK around in un-tanked frigates.

Oh, and suicide ganking is just as profitable as ever, if not more - the insurance nerf had little effect. My corp tends to choose the most efficient method for a small organization like ours to make money - currently, that method is preying on fat Jita grubs.
im mrmessy
Woolloomooloo Sheep Dip
#19 - 2012-05-14 14:32:15 UTC  |  Edited by: im mrmessy
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I kersploded a Hulk and it's on the killboard but the goons send no monies? I thought goons where the most trustworthy in eve Sad

To qualify, I believe that you must explode 10 otherwise our people would get burnt out.

edit: havve mercy on our poor reimbursement division. Actually, don't.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-05-14 15:42:03 UTC
im mrmessy wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I kersploded a Hulk and it's on the killboard but the goons send no monies? I thought goons where the most trustworthy in eve Sad

To qualify, I believe that you must explode 10 otherwise our people would get burnt out.

edit: havve mercy on our poor reimbursement division. Actually, don't.


o7

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