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I like them. In the absence of opposition, it's way more fun roaming low sec to get LP than orbiting buttons. Anyways...
1. Please convert all my hard earned VP into Comets. Please drop them off in Villore FDU.
2. All of you who said they were now interested in FW, please join. This expansion is for you!
3. I think people will likely make as much isk/LP as before but it will be at a slower rate doing what we want to do instead of blitzing umpteen missions all at once. We'll see.

Best way to make enemy stop plexing is to use army of 27 alts in enemy militia, following enemy plexers and getting their lp splitted.

Would it be possible to have the LP payout scale somewhat, to encourage running in small groups?

Say a minor plex pays 10k lp for a solo runner, 8k per person for 2, 6k for 3, up to a max of 20k total. Thank would reward small gangs whilst preventing people from farming with a zillion alts.

The benefits of snowballing are way too high for the belief in any other outcome to be irrational. Give the downtrodden a knife to put in the oppressors back .. !!


"Pending" is official speak for Soon™. CCP appears to have replaced Hans with a Stepford clone

PS: Check the stickies in 'Features & Ideas Discussion'

Agreed, and the farmers just ruined the FW and LP stores etc.
Missioning or farming not need FW membership. This is Faction "Wars" not "Faction Farming Site"

So was the idea to allow the cyno jamming of low sec systems scrapped? I think that would have been cool. if each faction allowed certain ranged FW pilots to switch it off as and when needed... But if FW guys are telling you that they want to fight over stations to get cheap medical cloans, i guess they'll be happy.

It would have been nice if the FW leaders could upgrade their systems to boost PI, ore/gas mining, increased number of complexes, etc. Maybe this would encourage more people into low sec and then in turn, they might get into FW.

As soon as you have to give one of the datacores (ME) to all of the faction warfare LP stores, it should be pretty obvious that it's a flawed concept to put datacores into the FW LP stores. Putting the racial datacores (Caldari Starship Engineering, etc) makes some sense - not much, but some. Far better to move all of the "navy issue" BPCs / etc. into the FW stores. Which would make more sense since it's end-user military technology.

Adding the datacores to the FW LP stores, without also adding them to the NPC R&D corp LP stores and not requiring datacore skills to be trained before you can purchase them is a slap in the face to everyone who has trained up those science skills in order to talk to the R&D agents.

CCP's claim: Datacores are passive

Well, that might be true, but they are only a part of a process, namely being able to build a T2 item.

So, let's have a look at the whole process.

1) Train skills
2) Grinding standing
3) Start obtaining RP to get datacores
4) Buy T1 BPO
5) Make a copy
6) Do the invention
7) repeat 5 & 6 until you finally get a T2 BPC
8) collect the required material
9) build the item

Now, let us look at the other way

1) Train skills
2) be a lucky person (or rich) and get a T2 BPO
3) collect the required material
4) build the item

And now, what is "passive" datacores or T2 BPOs?
Mostly the first process requires a POS so you need to be even more active.

It seems to me, like CCP cares too much about those ultra rich guys with T2 BPOs aka ISK BPOs but they don't give a **** about those pilots who really run the research.

To sum up:
- if you change the way of datacores, name us the real reason (is it reducing the profit of T2 BPO owners too much?) ... they are far from passive for those intending to build T2 material
- when you change, take care that it fits to those relying on the datacores, don't just make them a semi-passive kind of income for people not involved into invention (i.e. most faction warfare pilots, some exceptions), instead of full-passive for all those dedicate to invest skill and time to be able to gain datacores
- also consider T2 BPOs when you change something, since a change in datacores also changes the profit for T2 BPO owners

Less Datacores means rising prices to invent, which move on to the market (I do not see R&D people running out to join FW corps). Higher market prices mean more profit for T2 BPO holders, for whom the price to build is not affected. That does not even consider things that there are no BPOs for. And with mechanical engineering RP cost doubling and how prevalent it is in T2 Manufacturing, well expect inflation.

I think you are misunderstanding the so called "spread around."

Right now every faction can research in Mechanical Engineering. People in this thread were responding to the chart saying only Minmatar were going to get Mech Eng datacores in their FW LP store. Now said Mechanical Engineering datacores are going to double in LP price. That means from now on your research is going to net you half of what you get now. This means you will have to buy more cores instead of using your own. And frankly you can already invent faster than you can generate cores anyway.
So given the price of a mech eng core (280k low sell in Jita atm) that price will be added to more jobs. Any additional costs is an additional cost. The minimum for any invention job is 2 cores. That is more out of your wallet, which gets passed on to the consumer. Thus inventors sell at higher prices to make the same profit, and T2 BPO holders sell at the same higher price, because why would you sell at a lower price when you could sell higher?

Why did I even respond to that?