EVE General Discussion

Pretty much looks like what you're always trying to do, and you're full of lies my mom caaaares about me <3 =)

For the 11th time, nobody is after the hypercasual playstyle. It's great that gamers have the option to play from 30 minutes to 30 hours a week, depending on their personal circumstances, and nobody from CCP has anywhere ever suggested this should change. Please show where your fundamental ability to play the game casually in hisec is under threat.

If you can't get past the gate in you are doing it wrong.

Please show where EvE is wrong as it is now. If it has 300k subs and not 30k subs any more, it's because CCP found the perfect balance between everybody's playstyles and time constraints.


If people cry nobody goes to their 0.0 sweatshop and play exactly how they demand to, they have just to blame themselves.

Not sure where you get that idea.

For the most part, if you show up to OPs and don't **** people off you can do whatever you want. Now of there is an OP going on if you get caught carebearing while the alliance is busy shooting people.You can, but you main better be in fleet....or you better have a reason.

We skipped an op as a corp to go awox on some RA pets, when leadership asked. "Our awoxer alt is about to get kicked it was now or never."..."Oh Ok, good luck" and we merrily ran around blowing up shiny mission ships while the the rest of the gang was in a CTA. Not a problem.





True, unless you have a seeded station they have a pretty good number of slots.

I have. To summarize, you have a huge range of player-driven content that people are failing to access because of ultimately minor failures in the new player experience and gameplay transitions. Whether fixing these issues would lead to 100s of Ks more subs is obviously open to debate, but it is a reasonable premise that less barriers to potential greater enjoyment will lead to more subs and better word-of-mouth advertising. You're welcome to disagree.

You came into this thread with the attitude that evil nullsec tyrants are forcing CCP to destroy hisec so they have more fodder-peons to toy with. This is a farcically asinine view of the debate generally and this thread specifically, and is simply a product of your own imagination to justify your indulgence in self-righteous forum indignation.

So, how can a solo player do industry in lowsec? The losses would not be offset by the gains in that case. Sure if you have a corp of folks who are willing to protect mining ops and so on, it would work. I have yet to meet players who enjoy guarding mining ops. Why must people suffer crappy boring duties to be able to play the game?

I just got a revelation

The problem is getting people to dare to jump into low/null. Once there they will see that it is a pretty ok place to be and perhaps move there.

How to do it?

Introduce a new kind of jump clone. Call it a "disposable clone"(DClone). Everyone gets one. No skills needed. The clone can not be fitted with implants and when you die you loose no skill points (you do still gain skill points, just without your implants).

It would work like this:

You (mainly directed at hisec people I guess) decide to go on a trip to low/null. You dock in station, click on "change to disposable clone", board a cheap ship and head out to dangerous space. Once you have been podded you are back in your old normal clone and can, if you want to, jump into your DClone again.

You can jump into your DClone as many times as you like, but jumping back/getting podded always brings you back to the clone you where in before.

Why is this a good idea?
It gives people a clone that can be lost over and over again without any worries! Most people have already filled up their clones to the limit with expensive implants and MIGHT have one suitable for trying out new things.

That's great. Unfortunately your misinformed ranting went far beyond that, but if you want to backpedal to this point, then I agree with you completely.

In the future I would suggest you don't waste your time responding to extremist ranting with your own equally extremist sperging, but it's ultimately your prerogative.

When EVE was created, CCP had the endgoal to have players move to 0.0 after a certain amount of time in their careers. Upon seeing that most players would rather stay in highsec where it is safe, they essentially let 0.0 stagnate, because the majority of their paying customers lived in highsec.

I live deep in 0.0 right now, and I think that null/low/high sec can co-exist peacefully. I do think that either 0.0 should be buffed in terms of isk making per hour (this also increases Inflation, so maybe not) or that highsec iskmaking should be killed to a point to where it's almost / is a struggle to make PLEX money per month.

Lowsec... I'm not sure at all. I think that all of lowsec should be FW lowsec, just because what's the use of having both? it's silly. Lowsec should be practice for 0.0

Highsec should never be more profitable than even the lowest area of 0.0, and don't scream "Vanguard Nerf" at me, I'm talking about lvl 4's being more isk than they should be. LP's can be quite valuable.