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IF CCP had a RMT system how would it work.
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Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-10 08:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockius
With the release of diablo 3s rmt auction house I got to wondering what if CCP did the same thing and how would it work.

First off we would need a ingame currency that would have a static value and would never change unless CCP said so.

Why hello AUR how are you doing.

1 plex = 20.00 american dollars

1 plex = 3500 AUR

3500 AUR = roughly .0057 cents

So theres our ccp backed currency with static value.

Next we would need a 3rd party to moniter and track all conversions of aur into real money.

Why hello paypal. Ofcourse you would have to pay a premium added onto your sub each month for them to handle your business. This could be optional ofcourse you don't have to covert Aur to cash.

Next we add more goodies to the Aur store. Implants, ships, moduals, ect ect basicly make it like the Lp store cept you use aur to buy all these things. Hell while we are at it just remove plex from the picture and use Aur to buy your game time.

After the above step you add the option to buy items on the market or contracts for Aur or isk. Why hello my beautiful cnr raven thats faction fitted I would love to buy you for 10000 aur or whatever isk vaule is at the time.

The next thing to do would be to have CCP put a 10% fee on the amount of Aur you wish to turn to cash. An example would be like this. Random Player "I wanna redeem 1 dollar worth of Aur MR CCP" CCP "Well my little nubby heres .90cents for you and .10cents for me" So ccp would never lose cash.

To do it proper ccp would have to stop selling plex for one week maybe less. Setup and account with a cash value = to the amount of plex currently in the game and also the plex that has not been redeemed. Next we stop selling plex and start selling aur in 5$, 10$, 20$, so on and so forth amounts.

So lets reveiw

*Established Ingame currency with real world value = CHECK

*Established company with world wide ties and willing to do business with other companys and has a multi currency exchange rate = CHECK

*A void to which AUR can be sunk into so that it does not replace the actual in game currencys. Aka the market and the current AUR store with a lot of items added and their current website store. = CHECK

*Fees to ensure that the 3rd party gets paid and CCP gets their peice of the pie. = CHECK

Am I forgetting anything or have I missed some step that could make this more plausible.

Also constructive feedback would be welcomed.

ALSO REMEMBER IS A WHAT IF AND HOW WOULD THEY DO SCENARIO. CCP DOES NOT SUPPORT OR CONDONE THE TRADING OF INGAME CURRENCY OR ITEMS OBTAINED IN THE GAME FOR REAL WORLD CASH. AGAIN THIS IS A SIMPLY HOW THEY WOULD DO IT THREAD NOTHING MORE.
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#2 - 2012-05-10 08:44:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorki Andropov
Who in God's name would want to buy Aurum?


e: and just to address the title of your thread, CCP are avid monopolists in this regard - they simply love the RMT business, as long as you 'buy' the ISK from them.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2012-05-10 08:46:06 UTC
Rockius wrote:
With the release of diablo 3s rmt auction house I got to wondering what if CCP did the same thing and how would it work.
Poorly, since the 5 persons left on TQ would have a hard time finding each other.
Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-10 08:46:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockius
Think it would be recived that poorly?
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-05-10 08:47:50 UTC
It would work something like this.

1. CCP announces an RMT auction house.
2. Everyone quits
3. CCP decides it is a bad idea.
4. Eve slowly recovers over several months.
Luis Graca
#6 - 2012-05-10 08:48:28 UTC
buy auron to buy plexs that are also sold in isk and with real money ???? are you that dumb?
Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-10 08:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockius
No No plex gets removed and replaced by AUR. You pay x amount of AUR to add game time. And if you wanted a xferable item like a plex then allow for the creation of something like a check, banknote, or money order (For a nominal fee ofcourse) = to the amount of AUR you make it for.
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Luis Graca
#8 - 2012-05-10 08:55:20 UTC
that makes no sense if people want to by IN GAME plex it's for NOT SPENDING real money TO BUY AURUN REAL MONEY IS NEED it would be better to simple buy the subscription
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#9 - 2012-05-10 08:56:44 UTC
EVE would end up like the space sphere in about the same amount of time.
Whitehound
#10 - 2012-05-10 08:56:52 UTC
I still have my 1000 Aurum. They will sit there until CCP pulls the plug on their game.

Playing games with real money? Do it in poker if you must, but leave it out of children's bedrooms, please.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-10 08:58:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockius
Luis Graca wrote:
that makes no sense if people want to by IN GAME plex it's for NOT SPENDING real money TO BUY AURUN REAL MONEY IS NEED it would be better to simple buy the subscription



No all you would need to do is figure out the exchange rate for AUR to ISK. Just like we do for plex currently.

But anyways this is all a what if scenario. Nothing like this will ever happen in EVE. We are simply just dicussing how it would work if they did.
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#12 - 2012-05-10 09:06:19 UTC
Rockius wrote:
With the release of diablo 3s rmt auction house I got to wondering what if CCP did the same thing and how would it work.


They could achieve this with a mechanism for redeeming PLEX for cash (preferably Icelandic ISK). Everything else is already available in the game.

[/quote]First off we would need a ingame currency that would have a static value and would never change unless CCP said so.[/quote]

Why would there need to be a new currency? We already have PLEX, Aurum and ISK. Nothing else would be required.

The great advantage of using PLEX would be that CCP can then be guaranteed that they don't end up having to pay out vast reserves of money that they don't have. The incredible advantage to CCP of trading PLEX for Icelandic ISK would be to boost the country's economy due to people attempting to sell ISK for real money. See what I did there?

I'm not sure what a real money trading system would bring to the game though. Can you think of any way it would be useful? D3 hasn't crashed and burned yet, so we have no examples to point at and say, "see, that's why you don't do it."

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LuminousAxle
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-05-10 09:31:08 UTC
If CCP supported RMT ,

then this post would not exist as eve would be dead.
Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-10 09:32:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockius
Quote:
Why would there need to be a new currency? We already have PLEX, Aurum and ISK. Nothing else would be required.


I mentioned AUR as the already available cash backed currency.

Quote:
The great advantage of using PLEX would be that CCP can then be guaranteed that they don't end up having to pay out vast reserves of money that they don't have.


CCP would never have to pay out more than they have already than is in circulation since we would have to pay real money to obtain the virtual money. Also with a 10% conversion fee they would be making even more profit and constantly be on top.

An example would be this. You buy 20.00 In virutal currency and spend 10.00 of it on in game items and then convert the left over 10 back into real money CCP would then take its 10% processing fee out leaving you with 9 bucks and them 11. So there is no way they could ever owe more money than they are taking in as long as some kind of processing fee was involved.
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#15 - 2012-05-10 09:53:59 UTC
Rockius wrote:
Think it would be recived that poorly?



It would be "recived" as poorly as your OP has been.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-05-10 09:54:31 UTC
1) eve switches to micro-transaction/free-2-faggery
2) I cancel my account(probably along with numerous other people)
3) CCP reallise that it probably wasn't a good idea and remove it.
4) I resub

Alternatively they decide they're going to stick with it and I end up with alot more free time and a more varied selection of games that I play.
Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-10 10:07:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockius
As I said before this is not a post if they could, would, or should it a simple discussion on how it would work. Not a thread on I will cancel if they do or if the server would see a mass exodus of the player base. Think about it you take out the part about cashing in the virtual currency for cash. Then you are left with what we have now which is a item bought out of game and given value in game which is traded by players by a value determined by players. People buy plex from CCP because they want money to buy ingame items and people buy plex ingame because they want to extend their game time simple supply and demand. How would adding a step that would allow you to redeem the item for a predetermined value minus a nominal fee. Simply think of it as a refund of sorts or like cashing out your chips at a poker game.
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-05-10 10:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Tippia wrote:
Rockius wrote:
With the release of diablo 3s rmt auction house I got to wondering what if CCP did the same thing and how would it work.
Poorly, since the 5 persons left on TQ would have a hard time finding each other.


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That's soooooooooootrue, it's HILARIOUS !! :D


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Nate Hill
Rocket No. 9
#19 - 2012-05-10 10:25:37 UTC
Any RMT system will ruin the economy which is the foundation of Eve.

Diablo3 is based on its equipment farming, economy is nothing there.So there is a RMT auction house where Blizzard could collect tax.
However I think it's evil.

They are quite different.
Rockius
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-05-10 10:28:07 UTC
Nate Hill wrote:
Any RMT system will ruin the economy which is the foundation of Eve.

Diablo3 is based on its equipment farming, economy is nothing there.So there is a RMT auction house where Blizzard could collect tax.
However I think it's evil.

They are quite different.


Thank you for your constructive feedback.
The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. 
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